strong black pups

[Guest AngelicAcid]

you lot worry far too much about things............................................

 

the boys are already on the case

 

 

Winkhound thats mad. By the way hows the blue dog bred, what height and working style.

[Guest Leveller]

Nevermind the dog look at the girth on that truncheon

[francolin 449]

FRANCOLIN very true, though not entirely sure where your coming from. That is exactly the point, this is why terriers are stolen to order. Litters are very time consuming, expensive to rear, especially from highly prized stock like anything I ever breed is from. Keg did me a very big favour lending me his superb bitch that is of course very well bred.

And my dog is so rare it's hardly worth digging too, it took a lot of obtaining and was expensive, I am lucky to own it. That coupled with rising costs of everything HAS made litters the price they are, coupled with the fact I want decent, permanent homes for them, hence the price. I am keeping a dog and a bitch so is keg. The last one is sold now anyway, so that is that.

 

If all good terrier stock was £40 then it would be rediculous to steal them. How many Patterdale litters do you ever see that wont shift anyway hey? They fly out the kennel! Short life expectancies and a hugely popular breed is generally the reason for a healthy market. And another thing, to those obsessed with testing there stock to destruction, you can very soon end up with no stock at all! And bear this in mind also........

 

In many animal-breeding programs the entire process of selection and management is founded on the belief that performance is inherited. Attempts to analyze the genetics of performance in a systematic way have involved some distinguished names such as Charles Darwin and Francis Galton. But it has only been in recent decades that good estimates of heritability of performance have been based on adequate data. Cunningham (1991) in his study of horses found that only by using Timeform data, and measuring groups of half brothers and half sisters could good estimates of performance be determined. His data shows that performance for speed is about 35% heritable. In other words only about 35% of all the variation that is observed in track performance is controlled by heritable factors, the remaining 65% are attributable to other influences, such as training, management and nutrition. Cunningham's work while limited to horses provides a good basis for understanding how much breeders can attribute to the genetics and the pedigrees.

Researchers have studied this phenomena and have looked for new ways to stimulate individuals in order to improve their natural abilities. Some of the methods discovered have produced life long lasting effects. Today, many of the differences between individuals can now be explained by the use of early stimulation methods.

 

I have been doing this long enough, and also producing quality gear for long enough to know what works and does not. The proof is in my dogs, any dogs not satisfied with I buy back money in full when entered at a sensible age!!

 

keep your pathetic jealous opinions to yourself, and thanks for your support people here with a bit more about them, cheers. (labsnlurchers)

take my hat of to you pal, blinded me with science , its a double edge sword mate, see what your saying charge for pups so dicks dont get them. if you put the pups up for free every knob would want em, i dont sell any ,spares go to lads i know well ,dont breed that many so never any surplus , still think price was a bit strong

[Simoman 110]

Wink you dirty beast :sick:

[Kieron - 472 0]

what breed are thay mate ?

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Bet you wished you rolled that rug up first mate

Dont have a clue who the lad is but he speaks some sense,although the bit about about breeding from a dog thats seen nowt is strange to me as is a dog too valuable to work,not my philosophy , but there you go -this is the internet and everyones judged by the written word and pics .Roll on the season.

[Guest AngelicAcid]

what breed are thay mate ?

 

 

SHIT - ZUIS .

[Guest michael.hudson7]

not even trying to sell them, if I was they would be 350 quid and I don't even care if the parents work or not, thats the going rate these days, don't care what anybody says.

 

The only crap factory is this place

 

What the is that comment about.

[Guest SPIFF]

FRANCOLIN very true, though not entirely sure where your coming from. That is exactly the point, this is why terriers are stolen to order. Litters are very time consuming, expensive to rear, especially from highly prized stock like anything I ever breed is from. Keg did me a very big favour lending me his superb bitch that is of course very well bred.

And my dog is so rare it's hardly worth digging too, it took a lot of obtaining and was expensive, I am lucky to own it. That coupled with rising costs of everything HAS made litters the price they are, coupled with the fact I want decent, permanent homes for them, hence the price. I am keeping a dog and a bitch so is keg. The last one is sold now anyway, so that is that.

 

If all good terrier stock was £40 then it would be rediculous to steal them. How many Patterdale litters do you ever see that wont shift anyway hey? They fly out the kennel! Short life expectancies and a hugely popular breed is generally the reason for a healthy market. And another thing, to those obsessed with testing there stock to destruction, you can very soon end up with no stock at all! And bear this in mind also........

 

In many animal-breeding programs the entire process of selection and management is founded on the belief that performance is inherited. Attempts to analyze the genetics of performance in a systematic way have involved some distinguished names such as Charles Darwin and Francis Galton. But it has only been in recent decades that good estimates of heritability of performance have been based on adequate data. Cunningham (1991) in his study of horses found that only by using Timeform data, and measuring groups of half brothers and half sisters could good estimates of performance be determined. His data shows that performance for speed is about 35% heritable. In other words only about 35% of all the variation that is observed in track performance is controlled by heritable factors, the remaining 65% are attributable to other influences, such as training, management and nutrition. Cunningham's work while limited to horses provides a good basis for understanding how much breeders can attribute to the genetics and the pedigrees.

Researchers have studied this phenomena and have looked for new ways to stimulate individuals in order to improve their natural abilities. Some of the methods discovered have produced life long lasting effects. Today, many of the differences between individuals can now be explained by the use of early stimulation methods.

 

I have been doing this long enough, and also producing quality gear for long enough to know what works and does not. The proof is in my dogs, any dogs not satisfied with I buy back money in full when entered at a sensible age!!

 

keep your pathetic jealous opinions to yourself, and thanks for your support people here with a bit more about them, cheers. (labsnlurchers)

 

WITHOUT A DOUBT THIS IS THE BIGGEST LOAD OF SHITE I HAVE EVER READ OR HEARD.D I CAN T BELIEVE THIS SHIT YOUR ONLY AFTER POSTING .WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WORKING TERRIERS.YOU HAVE BEEN BREEDING OFF A WHITE BITCH WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN TO GROUND?

YOUR TERRIER HAS ONLY BEEN DUG 3 TIMES,CAUSE ITS TOO GOOD TO LOSE?

IF WHAT YOUR RESEARCH SAYS IS TRUE,WHY NOT PICK UP A CUR OF THE STREET AND TRAIN IT TO WORK?

AND IF WHAT YOUR RESEARCH SAYS IS TRUE THEN WHY £350

AND IF WHAT YOUR RESEASRCH SAYS IS TRUE THEN IS WORK NOT TRAINING FOR A WORKING TERRIER?

[Waz 4,265]

.............so there,,,,,,,,,!

[dev 227]

FRANCOLIN very true, though not entirely sure where your coming from. That is exactly the point, this is why terriers are stolen to order. Litters are very time consuming, expensive to rear, especially from highly prized stock like anything I ever breed is from. Keg did me a very big favour lending me his superb bitch that is of course very well bred.

And my dog is so rare it's hardly worth digging too, it took a lot of obtaining and was expensive, I am lucky to own it. That coupled with rising costs of everything HAS made litters the price they are, coupled with the fact I want decent, permanent homes for them, hence the price. I am keeping a dog and a bitch so is keg. The last one is sold now anyway, so that is that.

 

If all good terrier stock was £40 then it would be rediculous to steal them. How many Patterdale litters do you ever see that wont shift anyway hey? They fly out the kennel! Short life expectancies and a hugely popular breed is generally the reason for a healthy market. And another thing, to those obsessed with testing there stock to destruction, you can very soon end up with no stock at all! And bear this in mind also........

 

In many animal-breeding programs the entire process of selection and management is founded on the belief that performance is inherited. Attempts to analyze the genetics of performance in a systematic way have involved some distinguished names such as Charles Darwin and Francis Galton. But it has only been in recent decades that good estimates of heritability of performance have been based on adequate data. Cunningham (1991) in his study of horses found that only by using Timeform data, and measuring groups of half brothers and half sisters could good estimates of performance be determined. His data shows that performance for speed is about 35% heritable. In other words only about 35% of all the variation that is observed in track performance is controlled by heritable factors, the remaining 65% are attributable to other influences, such as training, management and nutrition. Cunningham's work while limited to horses provides a good basis for understanding how much breeders can attribute to the genetics and the pedigrees.

Researchers have studied this phenomena and have looked for new ways to stimulate individuals in order to improve their natural abilities. Some of the methods discovered have produced life long lasting effects. Today, many of the differences between individuals can now be explained by the use of early stimulation methods.

 

I have been doing this long enough, and also producing quality gear for long enough to know what works and does not. The proof is in my dogs, any dogs not satisfied with I buy back money in full when entered at a sensible age!!

 

keep your pathetic jealous opinions to yourself, and thanks for your support people here with a bit more about them, cheers. (labsnlurchers)

your more full of shite than your kennells, im with spiff on this one!!

[Guest blackntan]

FRANCOLIN very true, though not entirely sure where your coming from. That is exactly the point, this is why terriers are stolen to order. Litters are very time consuming, expensive to rear, especially from highly prized stock like anything I ever breed is from. Keg did me a very big favour lending me his superb bitch that is of course very well bred.

And my dog is so rare it's hardly worth digging too, it took a lot of obtaining and was expensive, I am lucky to own it. That coupled with rising costs of everything HAS made litters the price they are, coupled with the fact I want decent, permanent homes for them, hence the price. I am keeping a dog and a bitch so is keg. The last one is sold now anyway, so that is that.

 

If all good terrier stock was £40 then it would be rediculous to steal them. How many Patterdale litters do you ever see that wont shift anyway hey? They fly out the kennel! Short life expectancies and a hugely popular breed is generally the reason for a healthy market. And another thing, to those obsessed with testing there stock to destruction, you can very soon end up with no stock at all! And bear this in mind also........

 

In many animal-breeding programs the entire process of selection and management is founded on the belief that performance is inherited. Attempts to analyze the genetics of performance in a systematic way have involved some distinguished names such as Charles Darwin and Francis Galton. But it has only been in recent decades that good estimates of heritability of performance have been based on adequate data. Cunningham (1991) in his study of horses found that only by using Timeform data, and measuring groups of half brothers and half sisters could good estimates of performance be determined. His data shows that performance for speed is about 35% heritable. In other words only about 35% of all the variation that is observed in track performance is controlled by heritable factors, the remaining 65% are attributable to other influences, such as training, management and nutrition. Cunningham's work while limited to horses provides a good basis for understanding how much breeders can attribute to the genetics and the pedigrees.

Researchers have studied this phenomena and have looked for new ways to stimulate individuals in order to improve their natural abilities. Some of the methods discovered have produced life long lasting effects. Today, many of the differences between individuals can now be explained by the use of early stimulation methods.

 

I have been doing this long enough, and also producing quality gear for long enough to know what works and does not. The proof is in my dogs, any dogs not satisfied with I buy back money in full when entered at a sensible age!!

 

keep your pathetic jealous opinions to yourself, and thanks for your support people here with a bit more about them, cheers. (labsnlurchers)

 

WITHOUT A DOUBT THIS IS THE BIGGEST LOAD OF SHITE I HAVE EVER READ OR HEARD.D I CAN T BELIEVE THIS SHIT YOUR ONLY AFTER POSTING .WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WORKING TERRIERS.YOU HAVE BEEN BREEDING OFF A WHITE BITCH WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN TO GROUND?

YOUR TERRIER HAS ONLY BEEN DUG 3 TIMES,CAUSE ITS TOO GOOD TO LOSE?

IF WHAT YOUR RESEARCH SAYS IS TRUE,WHY NOT PICK UP A CUR OF THE STREET AND TRAIN IT TO WORK?

AND IF WHAT YOUR RESEARCH SAYS IS TRUE THEN WHY £350

AND IF WHAT YOUR RESEASRCH SAYS IS TRUE THEN IS WORK NOT TRAINING FOR A WORKING TERRIER?

HE TALKS IT BUT CAN NOT SHOVEL IT ME THINKS

[Guest AngelicAcid]

If its not for the coin then ill take the pup on, but DM you are taking the piss out of a 2 week old pup, come on play the game Cruel c**t. .

[BBB 7]

yes wanting good money from unproven stock. having a dog that you say is to good to work incase you lose it is the biggest load a shite i'v ever heard who dares win's . get it grafted..

[OHIO STEVE 11]

I do not know the original poster neither do I know how things are across the pond. However on THIS side when a dog is too rare to work that generally means that he cost too much OR he is MAKING too much to risk. I used to know of a white dog that was GOOD. Suddenly the owner quit working him and told me he was " TOO VALUABLE TO THE BREED TO RISK LOSING HIM" I got a pup off of him and up until the age of about 2 he was unbeatable...one day he just quit and never entered again ( was never damaged badly at all) . I have hunted with quite a few more out of this valuable stud and have yet to see a worker.