Guest markbrick1 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 i suppose there lamping dogs and LAMPING DOGS ive been out with lots of dogs over the years and theres a few i wouldnt give kennel space to,i cant see someone picking a pound dog up and them not hunting up retreaving runing correctly and being anything like a lamping dog for at least a good season,but we all have certain standards Quote Link to post
Guest SJM Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 can totally relate to undisputeds post Ive been lamping with a few different folks over the years, the lighthouse comment made me chuckle, I took a young lad out who lamped like this, he would stand stock still every time he switched the beam on and hold it above his head and shine it around him in a really slow circle like he was sending out a warning to any passing ships he got quite offended when I suggested to him he should try walking whilst lamping, but to me that technique makes more sense, if you and your dog work as a team and your moving whilst lamping, you can keep up with some of the undulations in the ground and keep the quarry illuminated at all times. When I was younger I used to run about all over the fields keeping up with the chase, oh the enthusiasm of youth now old age has set in, I tend to do that wiggly arsed "power walk" that makes you look like youve shat your pants I find I have less tolerance for weird quirks these days so I stick with someone who has a similar lamping style to me and we work well together as a team Quote Link to post
Guest SJM Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 i suppose there lamping dogs and LAMPING DOGS ive been out with lots of dogs over the years and theres a few i wouldnt give kennel space to,i cant see someone picking a pound dog up and them not hunting up retreaving runing correctly and being anything like a lamping dog for at least a good season,but we all have certain standards Yeah this is true - theres dogs that do a stylish job, lifting the rabbits quickly and straight back to hand with them every time. This requires effort and training, usually from a pup. But I dont think thats what Mackay was trying to say, if you read back through his post, I think he was meaning for a basic point and slip dog that you release and let it catch rabbits, most dogs with a bit of greyhound in them would do the job, at least thats how I read it ? Quote Link to post
LDR 29 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) can totally relate to undisputeds post Ive been lamping with a few different folks over the years, the lighthouse comment made me chuckle, I took a young lad out who lamped like this, he would stand stock still every time he switched the beam on and hold it above his head and shine it around him in a really slow circle like he was sending out a warning to any passing ships he got quite offended when I suggested to him he should try walking whilst lamping, but to me that technique makes more sense, if you and your dog work as a team and your moving whilst lamping, you can keep up with some of the undulations in the ground and keep the quarry illuminated at all times. When I was younger I used to run about all over the fields keeping up with the chase, oh the enthusiasm of youth now old age has set in, I tend to do that wiggly arsed "power walk" that makes you look like youve shat your pants I find I have less tolerance for weird quirks these days so I stick with someone who has a similar lamping style to me and we work well together as a team Thought you didnt go lamping....................... ............only kidding........ Edited August 10, 2008 by longdogrunner Quote Link to post
Guest SJM Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 I go maybe 4 times a year. Comparing that to when I was "into" lamping and I was out most nights of the week.........Its just not my thing anymore, but when a farmer asks me to do a clear out, and I get some of the catch to feed my dogs and my mates get the rest, its worthwhile going Quote Link to post
Guest markbrick1 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 i suppose there lamping dogs and LAMPING DOGS ive been out with lots of dogs over the years and theres a few i wouldnt give kennel space to,i cant see someone picking a pound dog up and them not hunting up retreaving runing correctly and being anything like a lamping dog for at least a good season,but we all have certain standards Yeah this is true - theres dogs that do a stylish job, lifting the rabbits quickly and straight back to hand with them every time. This requires effort and training, usually from a pup. But I dont think thats what Mackay was trying to say, if you read back through his post, I think he was meaning for a basic point and slip dog that you release and let it catch rabbits, most dogs with a bit of greyhound in them would do the job, at least thats how I read it ? yes but i wouldnt call that a lamping dog i would be in the vets all the time with dogs like that,what about when we lamp from the landrover and the rabbit makes its way back to under the vehicle shit how would one of these dogs handle that obstacle,in all cases theres dogs and theres dogs just cause you can kick a football doesnt mean you can play for glassgow rangers are does it Quote Link to post
doga 50 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 some dogs pick up styles that are pleasurse to watch whilst others dont for any real style some have bigger lungs to carry on when others have faided some take to long on their aproach you could go on so i would say there probably is. Quote Link to post
mackay 3,435 Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Well you would think its not rocket science but I've been out with a few peeps who thought they were auditioning for lighthouse keepers and some who are facinated by the beam...then there's the one's who blind you constantly and the ones who light you up from the back usually near a farmhouse. The one who's dog wont come back and hunts up. The one who lets his dog go as yours is coming back in. The one who wont shut up. The one with the dog that opens up. The one with the dog that aint stock broke. The one with the dog who doesn't like your dog....and finally the one who's wheel comes of the car when your 40mile from home. This is why I mostly go solo now. The kind of person you are describing is genrally known as an idiot or moron and are best avoided. Yes I can think of some more choice words to describe them unfortunately most of them have the permission on the good rabbit ground...but mostly avoid them now But do they catch rabbits?. They probably all do, which I think kind of reinforces my original post. Granted not as many as they would if they were sane with a well trained dog but they do put rabbits in the bag nonetheless. Quote Link to post
mackay 3,435 Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 i suppose there lamping dogs and LAMPING DOGS ive been out with lots of dogs over the years and theres a few i wouldnt give kennel space to,i cant see someone picking a pound dog up and them not hunting up retreaving runing correctly and being anything like a lamping dog for at least a good season,but we all have certain standards Yeah this is true - theres dogs that do a stylish job, lifting the rabbits quickly and straight back to hand with them every time. This requires effort and training, usually from a pup. But I dont think thats what Mackay was trying to say, if you read back through his post, I think he was meaning for a basic point and slip dog that you release and let it catch rabbits, most dogs with a bit of greyhound in them would do the job, at least thats how I read it ? And you would be reading it right SJM. Quote Link to post
Irish Lurcher 1,013 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Lamping with a hound is simplicity at its best. But there are those who try portraying it as a skilful form of hunting, bollix, a monkey with a hound could catch. The hound wont miss a nights sleep if he don’t catch, but some owners do. Dogs were hunting before we got near them, so yes I think a hound of the street could well do the job. Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 There is other quarry to lamp not just rabbits which any old mut wont catch! Quote Link to post
mackay 3,435 Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 There is other quarry to lamp not just rabbits which any old mut wont catch! Now,now Joe your opening a new can of worms mate. Quote Link to post
gaz 284 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) i suppose there lamping dogs and LAMPING DOGS ive been out with lots of dogs over the years and theres a few i wouldnt give kennel space to,i cant see someone picking a pound dog up and them not hunting up retreaving runing correctly and being anything like a lamping dog for at least a good season,but we all have certain standards Yeah this is true - theres dogs that do a stylish job, lifting the rabbits quickly and straight back to hand with them every time. This requires effort and training, usually from a pup. But I dont think thats what Mackay was trying to say, if you read back through his post, I think he was meaning for a basic point and slip dog that you release and let it catch rabbits, most dogs with a bit of greyhound in them would do the job, at least thats how I read it ? yes but i wouldnt call that a lamping dog i would be in the vets all the time with dogs like that,what about when we lamp from the landrover and the rabbit makes its way back to under the vehicle shit how would one of these dogs handle that obstacle,in all cases theres dogs and theres dogs just cause you can kick a football doesnt mean you can play for glassgow rangers are does it I beg to differ on your last remark as i do think any fecker that can kick a ball would get a game with rangers at present True,on certain ground at certain times of the year most dogs will catch their share of rabbits like say in walled feilds early in the season where they havent been lamped but then there are places where it has been lamped hard where the rabbits are up early flying over a well cropped feilds not missing a stride until they hit cover...not all dogs will catch many of these rabbits and some will come off these places empty handed. but i suppose you can say the same about walking up hares....dogs that couldnt come up on a good daytime hare never mind put it under any pressure to get a strike on it...but give these overmatched dogs short slips on rough heavy ground and the same cur will prob catch hares. Edited August 10, 2008 by gaz Quote Link to post
SkeetChamp 0 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 i think its a bit of both ,the dog and the bloke are just as important, and both will get better the more they go out , bloke on lamp can make and spoil night, but also dog, every one works thier dogs to diff quarry diff ways on lamp Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 i suppose there lamping dogs and LAMPING DOGS ive been out with lots of dogs over the years and theres a few i wouldnt give kennel space to,i cant see someone picking a pound dog up and them not hunting up retreaving runing correctly and being anything like a lamping dog for at least a good season,but we all have certain standards Yeah this is true - theres dogs that do a stylish job, lifting the rabbits quickly and straight back to hand with them every time. This requires effort and training, usually from a pup. But I dont think thats what Mackay was trying to say, if you read back through his post, I think he was meaning for a basic point and slip dog that you release and let it catch rabbits, most dogs with a bit of greyhound in them would do the job, at least thats how I read it ? yes but i wouldnt call that a lamping dog i would be in the vets all the time with dogs like that,what about when we lamp from the landrover and the rabbit makes its way back to under the vehicle shit how would one of these dogs handle that obstacle,in all cases theres dogs and theres dogs just cause you can kick a football doesnt mean you can play for glassgow rangers are does it Ahem! I think you will find that if you can kick a ball it does qualify you to play for Rangers Quote Link to post
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