were can i get a gas ram for a bsa lightning

[Guest hob__ferret]

were can i get a gas ram for a bsa lightning and are they hard of easy to fit

 

thanks lee

[SEAN3513 7]

if you get a new one they come with fitting instructions.

 

pm DONNYC on here.....he supplies them.

 

hope that helps

 

all the best

 

sean

[Guest hob__ferret]

thanks mate

[SEAN3513 7]

thanks mate

 

anytime

[yoggerman 5]

i feel sorry for you,,, i used to to be the same,,, i had everything rammed,,, or theoben 90's or slr98's,,,,,,,, dont waste your money on a ram sell the break-barrel and get an ripley xl9 the greatest air-rifle in the world bar none,,,,,,,,,,,, failing that an air-arms s410,,, the accuracey is unbelievable,, no more aching arms and inacuracey caused by the ram smashing itself silly into the end of the action,,,,,, trust me i was a die-hard ramfan but have know seen the light...... i owe it all to the legendary fred carter for showing me the way forward..... honestly non pcp guns are only fit for kid's as a starter rifle to learn on,,,, harsh words but the truth in this modern era of modern pcp rifles... in other words what would tou rather have an old series landy or a new defender spring-rifles are a thing of the past only fit for museums and kids.......... im sure some will disagree <the ones without pcp's> lol..... the year is 2008 not 1988

[SEAN3513 7]

i feel sorry for you,,, i used to to be the same,,, i had everything rammed,,, or theoben 90's or slr98's,,,,,,,, dont waste your money on a ram sell the break-barrel and get an ripley xl9 the greatest air-rifle in the world bar none,,,,,,,,,,,, failing that an air-arms s410,,, the accuracey is unbelievable,, no more aching arms and inacuracey caused by the ram smashing itself silly into the end of the action,,,,,, trust me i was a die-hard ramfan but have know seen the light...... i owe it all to the legendary fred carter for showing me the way forward..... honestly non pcp guns are only fit for kid's as a starter rifle to learn on,,,, harsh words but the truth in this modern era of modern pcp rifles... in other words what would tou rather have an old series landy or a new defender spring-rifles are a thing of the past only fit for museums and kids.......... im sure some will disagree <the ones without pcp's> lol..... the year is 2008 not 1988

 

completely disagree!!!!!

 

a decent springer will teach you to shoot............properly!!!!

 

and a springer in the right hands is every bit as good as a pcp.

 

most people dont have the budget for a ripley ( over rated in my opinion)

 

dont get me wrong i have a pcp.......but there is still a place for the springer.

 

all the best

 

sean

[yoggerman 5]

like i said i was a diehard for springers mainly ram's i had the best of these guns .. and rammed everything else of mine and fitted them blindfolded on friend's guns trust me... after shooting these guns on a large farm fred had permission on, i couldnt wait to bin the hw90 which was my fave up untill that time and get a s410,, like they say on the advert why have cotton when you can have silk...... p.s anyone who has used the ripley xl9 on a proper pest control shoot would agree this gun isnt over-rated it is fact the rollsroyce of guns.. and fred said the only reason youd say that about the ripley is cos you aint got one <in his own word's>.... im sorry but thier a thing of the past

[ChrisJones 7,975]

like i said i was a diehard for springers mainly ram's i had the best of these guns .. and rammed everything else of mine and fitted them blindfolded on friend's guns trust me... after shooting these guns on a large farm fred had permission on, i couldnt wait to bin the hw90 which was my fave up untill that time and get a s410,, like they say on the advert why have cotton when you can have silk...... p.s anyone who has used the ripley xl9 on a proper pest control shoot would agree this gun isnt over-rated it is fact the rollsroyce of guns.. and fred said the only reason youd say that about the ripley is cos you aint got one <in his own word's>.... im sorry but thier a thing of the past

I can't say I've used an XL9, on a proper pest control shoot, but I have used one and I wasn't able to find any discernible difference to make it worth the £1100 asking price.

 

I have used an HW100 on a proper pest control shoot (3000 pellets through it in under 3 weeks) and I found it the best rifle I've ever handled. At half the money, of the XL9, it really is no contest to someone like me. I make a living, with pest control, and I want something that will perform over what something looks like. I've paid for that rifle many times over and while it now looks like a bag of shit it still performs the same way it did when we zeroed it in. Flawlessly.

 

Springers are very capable tools. You don't have to spend thousands on a shooting set up to be able to enjoy your sport or pest control. My other rifle of choice is the Webley Stingray. It's had more pellets through it than I can begin to count and it still performs with enough consistency to be requested by other technicians on their shoots. With a second hand value, scoped and mounted, of around £150 - £200, they're certainly not a thing of the past and will teach a novice/beginner shooter more about recoil and hold over than a PCP ever will. Anyone can shoot but handling a springer will make a shooter better.

 

The XL9 maybe the Rolls Royce of guns but how many people would pay the asking price for one?

 

I'd rather pay a fraction of the price, for German engineering, that doesn't mean I have to sell a kidney to get fixed if it ever breaks.

 

Buy an XL9 if you can afford one. I certainly wouldn't anyone to think I don't like them or they're not capable but to say they're the best thing ever is like trying to compare apples and oranges. They work for some and don't for others.

 

Spend what you can afford and justify what you can spend. You don't have to be a millionaire to shoot an air rifle and elitism shouldn't have anything to do with pest control.

[donnyc 1,203]

I had a riply FAC First shot 40FTLBS second 35 third 30 Overpriced need regging at FAC levels over engineered etc.Better off with a decent fettled rapid .Couldnt wait to pass it on..

[yoggerman 5]

at least we all seem to agree on one thing ,,, pcp is the way forward,,,, p.s fred carter is proberly the best pest control shooter in the country he has had his ripley xl9 for about 6 years and it is fac. high-power over 50 ftlbs and it has never gone wrong nor has it needed to be serviced and has shot over 20 thousand pellets through it in his own estimation... i have a s410 xtra hand assembled and tuned by ken turner... it is dog's croutons of s410's chucking out nearly 45 ftlbs with bisley mag's

[half n' half 8]

i'm finding it hard to decide who you're more in love with,ripley or fred carter.

there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Edited August 9, 2008 by half n' half

[ChrisJones 7,975]

at least we all seem to agree on one thing ,,, pcp is the way forward,,,, p.s fred carter is proberly the best pest control shooter in the country he has had his ripley xl9 for about 6 years and it is fac. high-power over 50 ftlbs and it has never gone wrong nor has it needed to be serviced and has shot over 20 thousand pellets through it in his own estimation... i have a s410 xtra hand assembled and tuned by ken turner... it is dog's croutons of s410's chucking out nearly 45 ftlbs with bisley mag's

Depends on how you define the way forward. If you're trying to learn/teach marksmanship then a pcp will hit the same hole over and over again but it won't help you manage recoil. If you take two shooters. Put one with a springer and one with a PCP, for say 6 months, the PCP will be far more accurate. But if you get them to swap after 6 months the guy that shot springer first will be a better marksman. Personally I want to be the best I can be. Because I'm in the business of killing things and I want to do that quickly and humanely. So I learned how to shoot rather than how to just fire a rifle. Best pest control shooter in the country? That's a bold statement! I'd stick out on a limb and say the late John Darling but I'm being purely argumentative!

 

Springers and gas rams don't need charging. So you never have to fill them up. How many serious pest control shoots require carrying a diving bottle or stirrup pump? Especially at FAC levels of power and the drop in shots per charge. A 12 ft/lbs HW100 will do roughly 120 - 130 shots per charge. What's does an FAC level XL9 do? Compared to a Weihrauch HW97K or an Air Arms TX200? The most fun rifle I've ever shot was the Ripley Predator. It's completely impractical for anything other than fast action ratting but will tune to FAC. Would I buy one? Absolutely not because I just couldn't afford the time or the cash to. It's fun but it fails where terriers and anti coagulants are far more suited.

 

PCP's are far more accurate for pest control and we're in the business of killing things so, at risk of repeating myself, we need to be as accurate and as humanely as we possibly can. PCP's are great for this due to shot placement. But if you can't shoot in the first place a PCP will only mask the problem.

 

I guess it all comes back to how much you can justify a rifle set up. Mine cost me about £700 when I bought it about 3-4 years ago. I've paid for it over and over in contract work and purpose shoots. Even if I'd bought something twice as expensive I'd still have justified it, but I want one for my job. My little Webley Stingray has seen more action over many more years, simply because it doesn't have any faults. It can sit there and wait and be ready when needed. It doesn't need charging, it doesn't take up much space and if a call comes in I don't have to go and make sure it's all charged up ready. It's just as deadly and just as much the way forward in the right situation.

 

Hounds for grounds.

[SEAN3513 7]

i'm finding it hard to decide who you're more in love with,ripley or fred carter.

there's more than one way to skin a cat.

 

 

i have used a ripley.......not extensivley, but as chris said there is no discernable difference between it and a gun of half its cost.

 

and we are NOT all agreed..............there is a valid purpose for springers and all the major manufactuers must think so as the still make and sell them in there 1000's.

 

regards

 

sean

[yoggerman 5]

i'm finding it hard to decide who you're more in love with,ripley or fred carter.

there's more than one way to skin a cat.

there's more than one way to skin you my ol mate... if your tryin 2 say im a poof.... say what u want about guns and shooting but dont dis-respect me as i wouldnt dis-respect anyone on here personaly

Edited August 9, 2008 by yoggerman

[thelodgekeeper 0]

i feel sorry for you,,, i used to to be the same,,, i had everything rammed,,, or theoben 90's or slr98's,,,,,,,, dont waste your money on a ram sell the break-barrel and get an ripley xl9 the greatest air-rifle in the world bar none,,,,,,,,,,,, failing that an air-arms s410,,, the accuracey is unbelievable,, no more aching arms and inacuracey caused by the ram smashing itself silly into the end of the action,,,,,, trust me i was a die-hard ramfan but have know seen the light...... i owe it all to the legendary fred carter for showing me the way forward..... honestly non pcp guns are only fit for kid's as a starter rifle to learn on,,,, harsh words but the truth in this modern era of modern pcp rifles... in other words what would tou rather have an old series landy or a new defender spring-rifles are a thing of the past only fit for museums and kids.......... im sure some will disagree <the ones without pcp's> lol..... the year is 2008 not 1988

i agree i used to have a lightning but sold it for a riplley ar4 pcp. it was the best move i have done in my life.

cheers

stu