wink hound 0 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 so how about a bitch that in small earths, drains and artificals has the knack of grabbing charlie by the throat, flipping it over onto its back and the drawing it out the hole and letting it go. do you think she is a bolting bitch or a hard bitch. i think shes developed a techniqe to solve a problem to complete what is expected of her..... dog do funny things when the see there fair share of game! Quote Link to post
Guest fell terrier Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 my teriers are used for pest control and working with hounds if the farmers says there is one in the rocks it must be accounted for if the huntsmen says there is one in the rocks it also has to accounted for i have five terriers on at the moment all of varying uses some to others may not be any good but to me they are invaluble i have one that hardly takes a mark and i have one that needs resting a fortnight i suppose i am lucky to have the work and the room for a few dogs in my eyes they are 100% digging dogs tried and test every week sometimes more all year round.a true dog is a dog that has worked perfectly for five or six seasons properly not once every blue moon every week without fail these are the dogs that should be bred from ones that work how they were intended i read and advert in the edrd for pups for sale both parents dug to at least 50 times (50 times our dogs will get more than that in a season each)and i would say there will be alot more lads on here with dogs getting as much work if not more if you breed a litter each dog MUST be tested to the full for a good few seasons and in my eyes the dog that is used should be a killer of a fox no ifs or buts any dog will bolt one and a lot will dig them .in the days gone by a terrier would have to work bills regular then it would be worth breeding from.this is why a good terrier is becoming hard to find only a small band or traditionlists are still breeding the real type of dogs of yesteryear.a good dog can not be called a good dog until it reaches its sixth season then it can be called a good en Quote Link to post
Guest mk3 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 100% for me means a true stayer but round me no rock piles ,each to there own i also like them faily hard to give punishment when a sittuation occurs Quote Link to post
smelly dog 16 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 (edited) Edited August 9, 2008 by smelly dog Quote Link to post
dev 227 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 so how about a bitch that in small earths, drains and artificals has the knack of grabbing charlie by the throat, flipping it over onto its back and the drawing it out the hole and letting it go. do you think she is a bolting bitch or a hard bitch. i think shes developed a techniqe to solve a problem to complete what is expected of her..... dog do funny things when the see there fair share of game!i cant see how a terrier in "small earths" could possibly flip a fox over onto its back!!!! if it has room to flip a fox onto its back then draw it from the earth then that earth must have plenty of room in it and therefore cannot be called a small earth.IMO. Quote Link to post
dev 227 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 fell terrier, you say you have 5 terriers and they get dug over 50 times a year each!!! thats at least 250 digs a year!!! alot by anyones standard Quote Link to post
chester 147 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 a proper 100% earth dog should have a good nose not going to ground unless the set is ocupied wasting time and once to ground find and keep the quarry in the stoppend till dug to no exeptions season after season. you put the trust in the dog to do the job and the dog puts the trust in you to do your job and to dig him out . Quote Link to post
swanseajack 227 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 so how about a bitch that in small earths, drains and artificals has the knack of grabbing charlie by the throat, flipping it over onto its back and the drawing it out the hole and letting it go. do you think she is a bolting bitch or a hard bitch. i think shes developed a techniqe to solve a problem to complete what is expected of her..... dog do funny things when the see there fair share of game!i cant see how a terrier in "small earths" could possibly flip a fox over onto its back!!!! if it has room to flip a fox onto its back then draw it from the earth then that earth must have plenty of room in it and therefore cannot be called a small earth.IMO. you obviously haven't had one of these then... it can be done seen it plenty of times... jmho... Quote Link to post
Guest fell terrier Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 FELLTERRIER ,surely is you have a terrier that has to be layed up for a few weeks after a dig how could they account for the same amount of quarry as a bayer over the course of a season ,or would that dog account for more quarry each outing ? im not saying they acount for anymore quarry each dog has different merits i dig every weekend and during the week all year round dev a bit like you lads my young dog out side has had four digs in the past four weeks we have dug twice with a bitch that i have one is a pup three times with another bitch that i have and the other one a dog is now retired if you read my replie wrong i apologies the hunting season has not started yet once we are out with the hounds we could have a couple of digs per day hunt twice a week plus evening digging im not on here to impress any one couldnt care less what people think for all the dogs you have dev you must do a lot of digging do you not this thread wasntt about me it was about what makes a 100%digging dog thats nine digs in four week not bad by anybodys standards but average it out and the dogs are all seeing plenty of work throughout the year Quote Link to post
wink hound 0 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 so how about a bitch that in small earths, drains and artificals has the knack of grabbing charlie by the throat, flipping it over onto its back and the drawing it out the hole and letting it go. do you think she is a bolting bitch or a hard bitch. i think shes developed a techniqe to solve a problem to complete what is expected of her..... dog do funny things when the see there fair share of game!i cant see how a terrier in "small earths" could possibly flip a fox over onto its back!!!! if it has room to flip a fox onto its back then draw it from the earth then that earth must have plenty of room in it and therefore cannot be called a small earth.IMO. why? ive seen the bitch do it in a 6/8inch pipe, most foxes arent big and with the right technigue can be easily handled. once you have seen it happen you woulndt be such a sceptic Quote Link to post
donnyc 1,203 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 What you have to understand wink is that there are very very few on here that could have a fox out a 6 to 8 inch pipe .Lot of terriers on here couldnt get there fecking heads in one.Thats why you have to have all types and all sizes Quote Link to post
Guest SHOT Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 What you have to understand wink is that there are very very few on here that could have a fox out a 6 to 8 inch pipe .Lot of terriers on here couldnt get there fecking heads in one. Quote Link to post
dev 227 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 so how about a bitch that in small earths, drains and artificals has the knack of grabbing charlie by the throat, flipping it over onto its back and the drawing it out the hole and letting it go. do you think she is a bolting bitch or a hard bitch. i think shes developed a techniqe to solve a problem to complete what is expected of her..... dog do funny things when the see there fair share of game!i cant see how a terrier in "small earths" could possibly flip a fox over onto its back!!!! if it has room to flip a fox onto its back then draw it from the earth then that earth must have plenty of room in it and therefore cannot be called a small earth.IMO. why? ive seen the bitch do it in a 6/8inch pipe, most foxes arent big and with the right technigue can be easily handled. once you have seen it happen you woulndt be such a sceptic ok fair enough, i wasnt talking about pipes or artificials, but anytime ive dug a fox in a SMALL natural earth the terrier has been wedged in tight and the fox has been in tighter. barely room for the dog to budge,and just about space to get a grip, if there is room for the dog to get a proper hold of its throat and flip it over then the tubes must be a decent size,thats all i was saying, i didnt say your bitch didnt do it ! Quote Link to post
tigerdog2 8 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 find .hold .stay.the great dog must find if he has no finding ability its end of nothing can hapen further if he cant find,hold he must hold the quarry till you get to him no matter how hard hes pressed evan to the point were lets say hes not geting his own way and taking punishent he must hold,and last he must stay because if he had the first 2 ingredients but didnt have the staying power the other 2 would be useless,a belive if the dog has these abilitys and is worked regular for 4 or 5 seasons with out any hicups you could then call the dog 100 per cent ,i have been round digging 28 years and have found great dogs very rare ,cheers tigerdog !! Quote Link to post
Guest fell terrier Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 What you have to understand wink is that there are very very few on here that could have a fox out a 6 to 8 inch pipe .Lot of terriers on here couldnt get there fecking heads in one.Thats why you have to have all types and all sizes never a truer word said nice comment Quote Link to post
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