hiho 5 Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 i was out 1 day and i took a shot at a squirel. steamed it off the tree and it was still alive. it took 5 or 6 pellets to kill it. it was like a soilder couyldnt belive it lol Thats humane Quote Link to post
BEARINATOR 2,867 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I've had it happen a couple of times over the years but i've also shot one through the ears and it was dead instantly probably with shock Quote Link to post
Guest air gunner Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Anyone worked out how to prevent this yet? had one the other day got within 30yrds shot it clean in the head the bugger jumped and squirmed then fell still. i got up walked towards it after cocking my gun incase then somehow it jumped up and ran to its hole luckily it got caught in the fence so i could retrieve it. But if this happens im stuck the bunnys round me are never far from their warren so could easily run down their hole and die! i dont want this at all, when i shoot, the bunnys never just drop they nearly always squirm a bit or run a few yards. i saw a clip on you tube where you heard the gun and the bunny just jumped and that was it, and when i used a .22 rimfire the bunny just backfliped and that was it. Quote Link to post
klarakoi 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Anyone worked out how to prevent this yet? had one the other day got within 30yrds shot it clean in the head the bugger jumped and squirmed then fell still. i got up walked towards it after cocking my gun incase then somehow it jumped up and ran to its hole luckily it got caught in the fence so i could retrieve it. But if this happens im stuck the bunnys round me are never far from their warren so could easily run down their hole and die! i dont want this at all, when i shoot, the bunnys never just drop they nearly always squirm a bit or run a few yards. i saw a clip on you tube where you heard the gun and the bunny just jumped and that was it, and when i used a .22 rimfire the bunny just backfliped and that was it. Try a heart shot? When ever I have the opportunity for a side on shot I never go for the head, unless that's all I can see, I always go for the heart, just behind the shoulder and slightly low and your bang on. I have found over the years this shot to take rabbits 9 times out of 10, instantly, the odd one that does seem to run off lasts only a couple of yards and then falls. Its the same for squirrels up trees, if I get a front on shot the cross hairs go in the middle of the chest, and this seems to lift them in the air and always dead on the ground, This method was shown to me years ago by an old rabbit man that I knew and it has always served me well. The reason it works is this, when you take the behind the shoulder or chest shot whether your using a .22 or .177 pellet there is no chance of a deflection from the very hard bone of the scull, but because the pellet is hitting soft tissue, it retains its kinetic energy and as it penetrates it starts to flatten taking bone and flesh along with it to the heart, " This causes "massive damage" this method does work, give it a go boys you might be surprised, I think that when you sometimes think that was a spot on head shot and the rabbits done its somersault and you think its dead on the spot whats really happened is that its a ricochet and that's why the little fecker gets up and runs off, this is only an opinion, all the best, Rob. Quote Link to post
victor 10 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 i was out 1 day and i took a shot at a squirel. steamed it off the tree and it was still alive. it took 5 or 6 pellets to kill it. it was like a soilder couyldnt belive it lol Thats humane more humain than leaving it with a pellet in side of it. Quote Link to post
hiho 5 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 i was out 1 day and i took a shot at a squirel. steamed it off the tree and it was still alive. it took 5 or 6 pellets to kill it. it was like a soilder couyldnt belive it lol Thats humane more humain than leaving it with a pellet in side of it. more humane to snap its neck than to turn it into a pin cusion Quote Link to post
Onan 6 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 i was out 1 day and i took a shot at a squirel. steamed it off the tree and it was still alive. it took 5 or 6 pellets to kill it. it was like a soilder couyldnt belive it lol Thats humane more humain than leaving it with a pellet in side of it. more humane to snap its neck than to turn it into a pin cusion I personally wouldn't like to pick up a wounded squirrel,if you get the chance to do it hiho lets us know how you got on mate:thumbs: Quote Link to post
hiho 5 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 i was out 1 day and i took a shot at a squirel. steamed it off the tree and it was still alive. it took 5 or 6 pellets to kill it. it was like a soilder couyldnt belive it lol Thats humane more humain than leaving it with a pellet in side of it. more humane to snap its neck than to turn it into a pin cusion I personally wouldn't like to pick up a wounded squirrel,if you get the chance to do it hiho lets us know how you got on mate:thumbs: Foot neck tail pull Quote Link to post
redeye jedi 39 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Anyone worked out how to prevent this yet? had one the other day got within 30yrds shot it clean in the head the bugger jumped and squirmed then fell still. i got up walked towards it after cocking my gun incase then somehow it jumped up and ran to its hole luckily it got caught in the fence so i could retrieve it. But if this happens im stuck the bunnys round me are never far from their warren so could easily run down their hole and die! i dont want this at all, when i shoot, the bunnys never just drop they nearly always squirm a bit or run a few yards. i saw a clip on you tube where you heard the gun and the bunny just jumped and that was it, and when i used a .22 rimfire the bunny just backfliped and that was it. Try a heart shot? When ever I have the opportunity for a side on shot I never go for the head, unless that's all I can see, I always go for the heart, just behind the shoulder and slightly low and your bang on. I have found over the years this shot to take rabbits 9 times out of 10, instantly, the odd one that does seem to run off lasts only a couple of yards and then falls. Its the same for squirrels up trees, if I get a front on shot the cross hairs go in the middle of the chest, and this seems to lift them in the air and always dead on the ground, This method was shown to me years ago by an old rabbit man that I knew and it has always served me well. The reason it works is this, when you take the behind the shoulder or chest shot whether your using a .22 or .177 pellet there is no chance of a deflection from the very hard bone of the scull, but because the pellet is hitting soft tissue, it retains its kinetic energy and as it penetrates it starts to flatten taking bone and flesh along with it to the heart, " This causes "massive damage" this method does work, give it a go boys you might be surprised, I think that when you sometimes think that was a spot on head shot and the rabbits done its somersault and you think its dead on the spot whats really happened is that its a ricochet and that's why the little fecker gets up and runs off, this is only an opinion, all the best, Rob. ive had this a couple of tims ith my webley stingray, but only once with my hw100, rabbit was about 35 yards feeding hard on the deck facing me. put my cross hair striaght between the eyes, squeezed the trigger saw the flash of pellet from the lamp! then heard the ricochet of its skull. i always go for a heart/lung shot when they facing me now. especially at long range 40-50 yards. drop every time. Quote Link to post
jamiethehunter 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I believe it has something to do with the enviroment the rabbits live in. A couple of years back i had two shoots the first was a golf course the second was a quarry. On the golf course every shot was a clean instant kill on the quarry however 9 out of 10 shots had the rabbit get up and run. I was using the same gun and same pellets and shooting over the same distances. The only differences were the enviroments i guess the quarry rabbits were just tougher. Quote Link to post
Guest air gunner Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 But when going for the heart doesent the meat get ruined and gutting get a bit messy? Quote Link to post
klarakoi 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Anyone worked out how to prevent this yet? had one the other day got within 30yrds shot it clean in the head the bugger jumped and squirmed then fell still. i got up walked towards it after cocking my gun incase then somehow it jumped up and ran to its hole luckily it got caught in the fence so i could retrieve it. But if this happens im stuck the bunnys round me are never far from their warren so could easily run down their hole and die! i dont want this at all, when i shoot, the bunnys never just drop they nearly always squirm a bit or run a few yards. i saw a clip on you tube where you heard the gun and the bunny just jumped and that was it, and when i used a .22 rimfire the bunny just backfliped and that was it. Try a heart shot? When ever I have the opportunity for a side on shot I never go for the head, unless that's all I can see, I always go for the heart, just behind the shoulder and slightly low and your bang on. I have found over the years this shot to take rabbits 9 times out of 10, instantly, the odd one that does seem to run off lasts only a couple of yards and then falls. Its the same for squirrels up trees, if I get a front on shot the cross hairs go in the middle of the chest, and this seems to lift them in the air and always dead on the ground, This method was shown to me years ago by an old rabbit man that I knew and it has always served me well. The reason it works is this, when you take the behind the shoulder or chest shot whether your using a .22 or .177 pellet there is no chance of a deflection from the very hard bone of the scull, but because the pellet is hitting soft tissue, it retains its kinetic energy and as it penetrates it starts to flatten taking bone and flesh along with it to the heart, " This causes "massive damage" this method does work, give it a go boys you might be surprised, I think that when you sometimes think that was a spot on head shot and the rabbits done its somersault and you think its dead on the spot whats really happened is that its a ricochet and that's why the little fecker gets up and runs off, this is only an opinion, all the best, Rob. ive had this a couple of tims ith my webley stingray, but only once with my hw100, rabbit was about 35 yards feeding hard on the deck facing me. put my cross hair striaght between the eyes, squeezed the trigger saw the flash of pellet from the lamp! then heard the ricochet of its skull. i always go for a heart/lung shot when they facing me now. especially at long range 40-50 yards. drop every time. And they always will bud, Don'T be shy to do the same side on, just remember the placement, and there they stay, Quote Link to post
klarakoi 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 But when going for the heart doesent the meat get ruined and gutting get a bit messy? Well if you intend to eat the heart then yes, but as for the gutting why would it get messy, you put your hand in and you pull out the same innards, there might be some more blood but it wont in anyway spoil the meat, when I go hunting for the pot I want my meat to be as good as possible, so other than the ribs having a hole and some bruising you wouldn't know the difference, the same as when you shoot a deer heart and lungs shots are always the recommendation, but each to there own, all the best bud, Rob. Quote Link to post
Guest air gunner Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 wouldent the blood fill the innards? Oh well going lamping tommorow so i will give it a try. Quote Link to post
klarakoi 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 wouldent the blood fill the innards? Oh well going lamping tommorow so i will give it a try. Good lad, you know it makes sense, lol. Have a good night, all the best Rob. Quote Link to post
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