border man 2 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Hey all ,my border dog is 16 months old and is showing good propects. problem though one of his testicles hasnt dropped. Apparently there is a high risk of testicular cancer in the undecended testicle. If I have him castrated, will this effect his working ability? Quote Link to post
sikastag_1 689 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Hey all ,my border dog is 16 months old and is showing good propects. problem though one of his testicles hasnt dropped. Apparently there is a high risk of testicular cancer in the undecended testicle. If I have him castrated, will this effect his working ability? hear this happening with borders quite often, i dunno if it can cause caner mate see a vet about that part, but a guy i know is a hunt terrier man he was given a border that had allready been castrated the lady didnt want it because it was too highly strung i think so he took it on and its a f****n demon on foxes so i dont think this will effect the working part of it if your worried about this. Quote Link to post
towzer 3 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 just have the retained testicle took away mate you can leave the good nacker alone Quote Link to post
patterdale(shot) 0 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 at least if you leave one he can still breed i have heard diffrent thing on castration they wont work and will my option but never tryed it is a terrier is a terrier and i love to work what sex what age so were it has them or not it shud still go my bitch is spade and still works i dont think it would have any affect on the dog accept you wouldent be able to breed off him Quote Link to post
Guest Eamon.Mc Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Just a question, Do people not get their dogs neutered to calm them down and stop them being aggressive? Does removing the muts nuts not reduce the amount of certain hormones produced therefore reducing their aggression? If this is so would it not have an affect on how the dog would or would not work? Quote Link to post
bill88 6 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Just a question, Do people not get their dogs neutered to calm them down and stop them being aggressive? Does removing the muts nuts not reduce the amount of certain hormones produced therefore reducing their aggression? If this is so would it not have an affect on how the dog would or would not work? Eamon,different people have different theories on this,some say that the lack of Testosterone will change the dogs state of mind, some say it just stops them breeding.I have no experience of neutered working dogs,so cant really comment,but if i had a choice i'd leave a dog "intact" unless itwas detrimental to its health. Quote Link to post
sikastag_1 689 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 i would leave the dog intact aswell bill, but i would find out what was best for the dog, i myself would have thought it would have effected the dogs working ability but this border is 100% with no balls lol so my mind has changed. Quote Link to post
Guest Eamon.Mc Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 IMO I'd be of the same mindset bill, would be interesting to hear if there is anyone out there working dogs that are neutered? Quote Link to post
adam 0 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 hello mate, i hada a similiar problem about 12years ago both of my pats balls didnt drop but you could feel them still up there went to 2 vets to see if they could one said had to castrate him the other which is now my permanent vet said that i didnt have to but i would have to keep an eye on them and if they changed in size shape etc i would have to take him in to have em off. Luckily nothing has happened so far and he is coming up 12 yrs old and still working. If i was you i would just keep an eye on them and take it from there rgds Adam Quote Link to post
beaver76 1 Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 a mate of mine has a jack russel.He had him done at 18months.He's still going strong now at 13 years so i dont think it will do to the workin end of it.Happy diggin Quote Link to post
Corkonian 44 Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) Edited June 9, 2009 by Corkonian Quote Link to post
OHIO STEVE 11 Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 A little anecdotal evidence.. Only ONE example but it convinced me. I have a lurcher ( 1/2 whippet-1/4 border collie and 1/4 russell) He is intact. The person who bred the litter kept the pick male but had him castrated. we got them together a few years later and we worked em together. Mine was bigger, stronger , faster and more aggressive on game. I believe the reduction in testosterone DOES have a negative effect, but thats just an opinion. And besides what are you gonna do when the dog is a demon and you wanna put him to a good bitch? Quote Link to post
border man 2 Posted August 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 thanks for the input lads.bit of a spin from the original but is the testicle not dropping hereditary.read somewhere it is but heard somewhere else its not.any thoughts. if he makes the grade wouldn't want to breed him if he can pass it on. Quote Link to post
lucky 578 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 well i had Patch castrated and it has'nt affected his working ability one bit...... Quote Link to post
Borders 7 Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 My understanding is that there is an increased risk of cancer in retained testicles. Can the vet feel the retained one at all,sometimes you can,othertimes they are well up inside the dog,and can be difficult for the vet to locate. Borders who are neautered tend to loose their coats ,often go all soft and fluffy - some can't be stripped afterwards.Don't know who important that is to you. I'd think about just having the retained one removed. I personally would't want to breed from a dog with a retained testicle,just in case. Quote Link to post
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