mole catcher 1 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Pay as you go mobile sim cards. I went to buy a sim card today and was told that unless i gave my name and address i wouldnt be aloud to buy one. When i asked why i was told government guildlines regarding the sale of sims now dictates an address has to be given. I was then told that this is to stop criminals using the phones to commit crimes. More than is likely it is so they can have an addres of the perpitrator of said crimes. I was then told by the shop asistant that unless i was a criminal with something to hide why do i fear such big brother activity? Simple, as a law abiding person im now subject to this bullshite big brother paranoia from the state, where by im now subject to restrictions on my civil liberties. Take this paranoia a step further and the signils given out by the phone in my opinion is now being used as a tracking device, after all they will now know who owns that phone as they have the address. Lets face it, they want to keep us in our place, they want to keep tabs on each and everone of us and the mobile phone is yet another way of doing this. Ask any old age pensioner why they fought in the war and they will say to protect civil liberties and freedom. Do we have fredom? hell no, i couldnt even buy a sim card for my phone. Speaking of the war wasnt hitler charged with umugst other things of trying to control the human race? I can see that in the not so distant future we will either be put in a postion where by all new babies will have a chip inserted under the skin so we can be scaned from space so the government can keep tabs on us. Or simple do as Hitler did to the Jews, tatoo a number and bar code on our forearm and have us scan in our every movement. So government bullshite and paranoia had me resorting to a criminal activity, I simple gave a false name and post code. something that after reading the small print on my reciept said and i quote: Giving a false name and adress can result in criminal proceedings being brought against said perpitrator, resulting in a criminal record: unquote so there you have it, living in England in the year 2008 and going to buy a sim card for your mobile phone can result in you gaining a criminal record. Two words, F**K UM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest joe ox Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 I understand what your saying and fully agree with you. However if giving name and address can do anything no matter how little to help stop terrorism I agree with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 I understand what your saying and fully agree with you. However if giving name and address can do anything no matter how little to help stop terrorism I agree with it. So we all get punished for the actions of few mindless morons? You'll never stop those who wish to break the law in any form. While I'm not saying it's not worth trying to stop them, we have some of the tightest gun restrictions in the world, it hasn't stopped idiots shooting each other with illegal guns has it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest joe ox Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 I fail to see how giving your name and address to buy a sim card is being punished. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
speedlamper 0 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 maybe there first question should of been are you a criminal sir or are you planning to use this phone for criminal activites? if so please fill in your name and address, if you've nothing to hide whats the problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 I fail to see how giving your name and address to buy a sim card is being punished. Probably used the wrong word there, but it's as if we're all being tarred with the same brush, just in case. It seems like we're all under suspicion these days, that was what I was trying to get across. Whatever happened to a persons right to privacy, one of the most basic human rights? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob.i 26 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 its all bollocks if the baddies can get guns illegally sims will be a piece of piss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 its all bollocks if the baddies can get guns illegally sims will be a piece of piss My point exactly, it's like pissing into the wind! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,902 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 f**k them,constant drip,drip,drip erosion of civil liberties to Joe Public,but High-profile "Clerics" who actually promote terrorism on the streets of the UK still claim their benefits and live happy as a pig-in-muck Do what I have,get a phone registered abroad and just have it pay-as-you-go and topped up over there thats what a load of these f*****g people do anyway,how do the powers-that-be legislate against that?Buy a dozen SIMS in pakistan,not rocket science is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maty j 6 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 I've got about 50 odd PAYG sims here somewere. You can usually get them very cheaply off ebay and I don't think the ebay seller would bother reporting back to the network provider everytime they sold one. Carboot sales are good too, Most old phones or even newer models are sold with a sim in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ade33uk 86 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 i got 4 sim cards from here http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/freesimcard?...onFreGeAdd_0978 recently only needed one but i thought may as well take four , ended up giving two away dont know where they are now , so how can they track all the phones and sim cards floating around at boot sales etc . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Coney 3 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 More draconian measures !!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyfoster10 0 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 just give a blag name and address in they carnt be wanting proof aswell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 (edited) Pay as you go mobile sim cards. I went to buy a sim card today and was told that unless i gave my name and address i wouldnt be aloud to buy one. When i asked why i was told government guildlines regarding the sale of sims now dictates an address has to be given. I was then told that this is to stop criminals using the phones to commit crimes. More than is likely it is so they can have an addres of the perpitrator of said crimes. I was then told by the shop asistant that unless i was a criminal with something to hide why do i fear such big brother activity? Simple, as a law abiding person im now subject to this bullshite big brother paranoia from the state, where by im now subject to restrictions on my civil liberties. Take this paranoia a step further and the signils given out by the phone in my opinion is now being used as a tracking device, after all they will now know who owns that phone as they have the address. Lets face it, they want to keep us in our place, they want to keep tabs on each and everone of us and the mobile phone is yet another way of doing this. Ask any old age pensioner why they fought in the war and they will say to protect civil liberties and freedom. Do we have fredom? hell no, i couldnt even buy a sim card for my phone. Speaking of the war wasnt hitler charged with umugst other things of trying to control the human race? I can see that in the not so distant future we will either be put in a postion where by all new babies will have a chip inserted under the skin so we can be scaned from space so the government can keep tabs on us. Or simple do as Hitler did to the Jews, tatoo a number and bar code on our forearm and have us scan in our every movement. So government bullshite and paranoia had me resorting to a criminal activity, I simple gave a false name and post code. something that after reading the small print on my reciept said and i quote: Giving a false name and adress can result in criminal proceedings being brought against said perpitrator, resulting in a criminal record: unquote so there you have it, living in England in the year 2008 and going to buy a sim card for your mobile phone can result in you gaining a criminal record. Two words, F**K UM Apparently if you put your mobile number into google earth it can tell you exactly where you are Edited August 5, 2008 by undisputed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Halfinch 51 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Ah, the goverment got this terrorist situation sorted now, just make them give you their name and address when they buy a sim card, They will never realise why they ask that. surley it would help our overstretched security forces if you also had to put down your occupation, ie: Terrorist. :wacko: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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