T78 4 Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 "Latin is a member of the family of Italic languages, and its alphabet, the Latin alphabet, emerged from the Old Italic alphabets, which in turn were derived from the Greek and Phoenician scripts. Latin was first brought to the Italian peninsula in the 9th or 8th century BC by migrants from the north, who settled in the Latium region, specifically around the River Tiber, where the Roman civilization first developed. Latin was influenced by the Celtic dialects in northern Italy and the non-Indo-European Etruscan language in Central Italy, and by Greek in southern Italy. Although surviving Latin literature consists almost entirely of Classical Latin, an artificial, highly stylized and polished literary language from the 1st century BC, the actual spoken language of the Roman Empire was Vulgar Latin, which significantly differed from Classical Latin in grammar, vocabulary, and eventually pronunciation. Also, although Latin remained the main written language of the Roman Empire, Greek came to be the language spoken by the well-educated elite, as most of the literature studied by Romans was written in Greek. In the eastern half of the Roman Empire, which became the Byzantine Empire, the Greek Koine of Hellenism remained current and was never replaced by Latin." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 "Latin is a member of the family of Italic languages, and its alphabet, the Latin alphabet, emerged from the Old Italic alphabets, which in turn were derived from the Greek and Phoenician scripts. Latin was first brought to the Italian peninsula in the 9th or 8th century BC by migrants from the north, who settled in the Latium region, specifically around the River Tiber, where the Roman civilization first developed. Latin was influenced by the Celtic dialects in northern Italy and the non-Indo-European Etruscan language in Central Italy, and by Greek in southern Italy. Although surviving Latin literature consists almost entirely of Classical Latin, an artificial, highly stylized and polished literary language from the 1st century BC, the actual spoken language of the Roman Empire was Vulgar Latin, which significantly differed from Classical Latin in grammar, vocabulary, and eventually pronunciation. Also, although Latin remained the main written language of the Roman Empire, Greek came to be the language spoken by the well-educated elite, as most of the literature studied by Romans was written in Greek. In the eastern half of the Roman Empire, which became the Byzantine Empire, the Greek Koine of Hellenism remained current and was never replaced by Latin." Spot on mate unfortunately there's a few neanderthals who associate anything with Roman or Latin in it with Catholicism, nice to see some educated posts for a change Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Coney 3 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 "Latin is a member of the family of Italic languages, and its alphabet, the Latin alphabet, emerged from the Old Italic alphabets, which in turn were derived from the Greek and Phoenician scripts. Latin was first brought to the Italian peninsula in the 9th or 8th century BC by migrants from the north, who settled in the Latium region, specifically around the River Tiber, where the Roman civilization first developed. Latin was influenced by the Celtic dialects in northern Italy and the non-Indo-European Etruscan language in Central Italy, and by Greek in southern Italy. Although surviving Latin literature consists almost entirely of Classical Latin, an artificial, highly stylized and polished literary language from the 1st century BC, the actual spoken language of the Roman Empire was Vulgar Latin, which significantly differed from Classical Latin in grammar, vocabulary, and eventually pronunciation. Also, although Latin remained the main written language of the Roman Empire, Greek came to be the language spoken by the well-educated elite, as most of the literature studied by Romans was written in Greek. In the eastern half of the Roman Empire, which became the Byzantine Empire, the Greek Koine of Hellenism remained current and was never replaced by Latin." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 "Latin is a member of the family of Italic languages, and its alphabet, the Latin alphabet, emerged from the Old Italic alphabets, which in turn were derived from the Greek and Phoenician scripts. Latin was first brought to the Italian peninsula in the 9th or 8th century BC by migrants from the north, who settled in the Latium region, specifically around the River Tiber, where the Roman civilization first developed. Latin was influenced by the Celtic dialects in northern Italy and the non-Indo-European Etruscan language in Central Italy, and by Greek in southern Italy. Although surviving Latin literature consists almost entirely of Classical Latin, an artificial, highly stylized and polished literary language from the 1st century BC, the actual spoken language of the Roman Empire was Vulgar Latin, which significantly differed from Classical Latin in grammar, vocabulary, and eventually pronunciation. Also, although Latin remained the main written language of the Roman Empire, Greek came to be the language spoken by the well-educated elite, as most of the literature studied by Romans was written in Greek. In the eastern half of the Roman Empire, which became the Byzantine Empire, the Greek Koine of Hellenism remained current and was never replaced by Latin." Spot on mate unfortunately there's a few neanderthals who associate anything with Roman or Latin in it with Catholicism, nice to see some educated posts for a change "Neanderthal"??? Nope, just extremely suspicious of any group or cult that uses a language that no one except the leaders can understand. If you wish to try and insult me further then I suggest you keep it to pm, my replies will not be pleasant or for public reading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 "Latin is a member of the family of Italic languages, and its alphabet, the Latin alphabet, emerged from the Old Italic alphabets, which in turn were derived from the Greek and Phoenician scripts. Latin was first brought to the Italian peninsula in the 9th or 8th century BC by migrants from the north, who settled in the Latium region, specifically around the River Tiber, where the Roman civilization first developed. Latin was influenced by the Celtic dialects in northern Italy and the non-Indo-European Etruscan language in Central Italy, and by Greek in southern Italy. Although surviving Latin literature consists almost entirely of Classical Latin, an artificial, highly stylized and polished literary language from the 1st century BC, the actual spoken language of the Roman Empire was Vulgar Latin, which significantly differed from Classical Latin in grammar, vocabulary, and eventually pronunciation. Also, although Latin remained the main written language of the Roman Empire, Greek came to be the language spoken by the well-educated elite, as most of the literature studied by Romans was written in Greek. In the eastern half of the Roman Empire, which became the Byzantine Empire, the Greek Koine of Hellenism remained current and was never replaced by Latin." Spot on mate unfortunately there's a few neanderthals who associate anything with Roman or Latin in it with Catholicism, nice to see some educated posts for a change "Neanderthal"??? Nope, just extremely suspicious of any group or cult that uses a language that no one except the leaders can understand. If you wish to try and insult me further then I suggest you keep it to pm, my replies will not be pleasant or for public reading. Why would you be suspicious?.....and as for only the leaders understanding it.....Latin is taught in medical schools, Lawyers are conversant in Latin and I would imagine it is taught in some schools, so where are you going with this?.....as for your replies say what you feel mate no skin of my nose! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T78 4 Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 i only want a tattoo.... (booked in for thurs so will post pics when its done) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy0211 2 Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 i want a new tatto,ive googled it etc but want to make 200 percent sure before i get it... i want "prosapia premoris" accross top of my chest.anyone know any latin and is that correct for "family first"? prosapia or familia both mean family in latin Latin's a bugger, they've got different words for the same meanings depending on the context. Have you ever seen 'Life of Brian?' Think the whole point of latin was to make sure that normal people didn't understand what the pope was saying, or of course to be able say one thing and then later change it to mean another, but surely the Roman Catholic Church wouldn't do that?! Personally I'd rather cut my arm off than have the language of the pope written on it but we're all different I suppose ................. What have you against German's then ? Germans? Nothing at all, after all Luther was one ............ you've got to respect the germans...2 cracks at the world title Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T78 4 Posted August 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 bump for pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 bump for pics. Nice job! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T78 4 Posted August 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 cheers mate.i chose the font type to be latin/roman. think it suits it great! bit sore on the old collar bone though.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueCoyote 0 Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 funny discussion up there. seems like they were going A verbis ad verbera!! lol i'm interested in Latin too (as in the ROMAN sans Catholic) tattoo looks good anyway at least you're a guy and its warm out.. you can always go shirtless if it chafes you too much! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mole catcher 1 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 dont want to upset the apple cart here but ive just put it into 3 differant internet translators and all 3 have came back the same, FAMILY TO SQUEEZE????? maybe not quite what you wanted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scallywag 78 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Great tattoo and good sentiment, too (unless you have a family like mine - what's the latin for 'run for your life' ?!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T78 4 Posted August 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 dont want to upset the apple cart here but ive just put it into 3 differant internet translators and all 3 have came back the same, FAMILY TO SQUEEZE????? maybe not quite what you wanted? i put it into a few more than that before i went to get it done! plus the tattoist also checked. its definately as it should be! (family to squeeze is "prosapia premo"!!!! lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timid Toad 18 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Those online "translators" are worthless. They're bad enough for the Romance languages, but when it comes to Latin, they're impossible! You can render those phrases as follows: "From the cross comes salvation" = De cruce venit salus "Family first" = Primo familia "Faith and family" = Fides et familia this is what i got when i asked lol wish i hadnt bothered i have enough problems with english thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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