socks 32,253 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 All the folk I know who lamp hares do it because they fill their pants at the sight of a farmer coming across a field towards them, or their dogs are too mediocre to be able to take them consitently and in numbers during the day yep thats the reason my collie mut is shit and cant catch a cold so it makes me feel like a proper dog man when she catches hares on the lamp ............. Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 How can you call a blinded hare fair game? blinded hare ??? how is that going happen unless the hare runs straight towrds you ... a hare is no different than a rabbit ... it is an agricultural pest pure and simple and shouldnt be given any preferencial treatment to the rabbit ........... clearly you have not compared a hare running during the day and 1 running at night or you would notice the gulf of difference. right lets just clarify i never said a hare run on the lamp was the same as one run in the day ... what i said was that they dont get blinded and as an agricultural pest they are no different than a rabbit .......... Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) All the folk I know who lamp hares do it because they fill their pants at the sight of a farmer coming across a field towards them, or their dogs are too mediocre to be able to take them consitently and in numbers during the day So what do you do when you see a farmer coming toward you? Do you just stand and wait for him and say "how do" The police are taking coursing more seriously now and clamping down on it...there's been a couple of arrests already....so dont know about filling my pants but I would be making like Linford Christy if I seen one. I'd be interested to know what you mean by "numbers" during the day. Edited August 3, 2008 by undisputed Quote Link to post
AL BUNDY 45 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 cours·ing // Audio Help /ˈkɔrsɪŋ, ˈkoʊr-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kawr-sing, kohr-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1.the act of a person or thing that courses. 2.the sport of pursuing game with dogs that follow by sight rather than by scent. [Origin: 1530–40; course + -ing1] so it is coursing, yet foxes arent. Well done mate ITS NOT COURSING IN THE SAME WAY AS THROWING YOUR DOG ON A HARE IN ITS SEAT. Quote Link to post
AL BUNDY 45 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 cours·ing // Audio Help /ˈkɔrsɪŋ, ˈkoʊr-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kawr-sing, kohr-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1.the act of a person or thing that courses. 2.the sport of pursuing game with dogs that follow by sight rather than by scent. [Origin: 1530–40; course + -ing1] so it is coursing, yet foxes arent. Well done mate ITS NOT COURSING IN THE SAME WAY AS THROWING YOUR DOG ON A HARE IN ITS SEAT. it is still coursing, as the dog is approaching the game. Surely it is better for the dog to use as little energy as possible, id rather my dog take the hare out of the seat in 10secs and be on the next one rather than spend 5 mins on 1 hare. THEN COME ON HERE AND AND BUM HOW YOUR DOG CAN CATCH A HARE WHY NOT RATTLE A SLUNG SHOT INTO IT FIRST WILL USE EVEN LESS ENERGY Y Quote Link to post
Guest SJM Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 I would have thought it would have been obvious what I meant by numbers? 3, 4, 5, 6,....... you get the general gist It is not unheard of for good coursing dogs to have taken 7s and 8s pre ban. I even heard of a fen doing doing 11 now that takes a special sort of dog Its harder to get a dog that can do good numbers during the day than it is to get one that will knock a few over at night, most people struggle to get a really good consistent 5 out of 5 winter daytime dog. But shine that lamp around a field and mediocre dogs can catch 3s, 4s and more. So its not rocket science is it? If I see a farmer or anyone else in the fields I am not going to run off, that would indicate to them or anyone else watching that I was doing something wrong? Its perfectly legal to exercise your dog on a lead or under close control over most inland areas in Scotland re the outdoor access code Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 I would have thought it would have been obvious what I meant by numbers? 3, 4, 5, 6,....... you get the general gist It is not unheard of for good coursing dogs to have taken 7s and 8s pre ban. I even heard of a fen doing doing 11 now that takes a special sort of dog Its harder to get a dog that can do good numbers during the day than it is to get one that will knock a few over at night, most people struggle to get a really good consistent 5 out of 5 winter daytime dog. But shine that lamp around a field and mediocre dogs can catch 3s, 4s and more. So its not rocket science is it? If I see a farmer or anyone else in the fields I am not going to run off, that would indicate to them or anyone else watching that I was doing something wrong? Its perfectly legal to exercise your dog on a lead or under close control over most inland areas in Scotland re the outdoor access code Aye try telling that to the cops...I think your splitting hares (pun intended)....No it wasn't obvious as most coursing men I know would struggle to hit the numbers your quoting in a day...the dogs your talking about are either banging their quarry very quickly or dare I say it taking summer hares (or exceptionally special)....be interesting to hear other coursing men's views on numbers they've had in a day. I dont disagree with you on the lamping of hares....and no form of hunting is rocket science is it? Quote Link to post
Guest SJM Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Well you go with what works for you dont you? Ive been caught many times over the years by farmers, keepers, polis and as long as you keep yourself right, dog on lead when they approach you and nothing you shouldnt have about your person, your a dog walker exercising your right to roam and its up to them to waste police time and resources trying to prove otherwise if they decide to do so. It gives them a job to do doesnt it? Best of luck to you if you want to emulate Linford Christie, it will certainly keep you fit thats for sure The figures I have quoted are not uncommon for coursing dogs, my pups great grandmother was reputed to have been a real dog which killed a 9 when the travelling lads owned it, have heard of a fen dog doing 11 as I mentioned before, have seen dogs regularly doing 3/4 and no not in the summertime, Dec/Jan when the hares are flying and the mediocre lamping dogs wouldnt stand a look in, they would just get dragged about from field to field until the hare drops a gear and hits a wood or some cover. We will just have to agree to disagree wont we Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,213 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 if you have your dog on a lead your ok unless your caught running a hare or have dead hares with you or a few people see you slipping your dog there isn't much they can do dog's that can do 11 don't come about very often but there's exellent coursing dog's that can do 3's and 4's regually winter time and not just killing them quick with descent slip's proper course' s Quote Link to post
Guest coopermurphy3 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 i agree with u machull............use hares for coursing ie but dog have to have muzzles on them Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,213 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 i agree with u machull............use hares for coursing ie but dog have to have muzzles on them Quote Link to post
Guest SJM Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 I think maybe hes referring to the Irish park coursing where they run greyhounds with muzzles on? Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) I would much rather see hares coursed and killed by dogs night or day than see a line of people with guns walking fields 10 yards apart shooting every hare that lifts. Edited August 3, 2008 by joe ox Quote Link to post
Guest markbrick1 Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 i used to love lamping hares,and to the ones on here who say its easy,well you must be thick as shit cause its not easy,this shit they dont go through hedges and run round in circles well maybe in the walled fields of the lakes and dales but not in the big sheep fields of lancashire and cornwall,it takes a good dog to catch good nus on the lamp here were there is no walled fields,and i would make room for one of these dogs that can kill 10 lamped hares,hope to god its not in the lamping competion,mark Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 i used to love lamping hares,and to the ones on here who say its easy,well you must be thick as shit cause its not easy,this shit they dont go through hedges and run round in circles well maybe in the walled fields of the lakes and dales but not in the big sheep fields of lancashire and cornwall,it takes a good dog to catch good nus on the lamp here were there is no walled fields,and i would make room for one of these dogs that can kill 10 lamped hares,hope to god its not in the lamping competion,mark Have a look in anythingoes profile/gallery he has the picture of the 10 hares caught on the LAMP your right hare's arn't easy to catch but they're a damn sight EASIER to catch on the lamp and thats a FACT whether you like it or not....so maybe it is better that they're not in your competition wouldn't want them to steal your thunder now would we. Quote Link to post
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