i took a newbie out shooting tonight

[Guest bigredbusa]

my mate is a squaddie and the only thing he has shot at is taliban , he kept asking me to take him out so i gave him the super10 and i would lamp .

 

well we got a dozen rabbits and feck me the lad can shoot , we paced a rabbit at 55 yards !! i was 30 yards from him when he took the shot so i couldnt warn him not too but what a cracking shot

 

at the end of the night he said i wonder what the sa80 would do to a bunnie , gotta love squaddies

 

i will try and get some pics up

[wats 0]

my best mate ex squaddie came back from germany saw my gun n loved it went out and bought 1 week after he shoots well too must train em good but suppose they av to

[biffo 0]

i wouldnt like to think what an sa80 would do to a rabbit but it wouldnt be pretty

[Guest bigredbusa]

he was saying the round is designed not to kill but say if you got shot in the leg it doesnt mean it would come out the other side but could come out anywhere . sounds pretty mental if you ask me .

[andy s410c 61]

The SA80 would probalies jam every other shot they did when i used them in the 90,s..

[Malt 379]

he was saying the round is designed not to kill but say if you got shot in the leg it doesnt mean it would come out the other side but could come out anywhere . sounds pretty mental if you ask me .

That's right, I've been told that by a few of my family members that have served in the forces. They are designed to ricochet around the body & do as much damage as possible. It could hit you in the thigh, then bounce around off of a few bones, then exit through your shoulder! No good for hunting, unless you like your meat ready minced!

[gilly-93 31]

wouldent want to be hit with a sa80 then

[Grim Reaper 1]

The SA80 would probalies jam every other shot they did when i used them in the 90,s..

 

Can honestly say i never had that problem with the L1A1 7.62 SLR - bloody good rifle, that! I am glad to say that i left before they adopted the SA80 - otherwise known as 'the plastic spastic' by us old school types!

 

 

 

All the best,

Grim.

[andy s410c 61]

The SLR had just been decomissioned when i joined up,never got to fire one,a proper man stopper up to 1200yds i believe??

[Grim Reaper 1]

The SLR had just been decomissioned when i joined up,never got to fire one,a proper man stopper up to 1200yds i believe??

 

 

Yeah, indeed it was! If I remember correctly, with the on-board 'opens', it was effective out to 600 yards? with a scope on, it was then effective out to about 1100-1200 yards.

 

I was very very nearly tempted to buy the 'old spec' de-ac (fully strippable and all moving parts) FN Fal L1A1 SLR i was recently offered, but not sure the wife would have appreciated it though! Pity really that.

 

 

 

Regards,

Grim.

Edited August 2, 2008 by Grim Reaper

[Coney 3]

Nice one.

[droid 11]

Bit off-topic, but I was under the impression that a wounded enemy combatant was better than a dead one, because some bugger had to do something about a wounded man, raher than just leaving the body till later.

[Deker 3,478]

I'm a little intrigued about the 5.56 bullet bouncing all around the body and coming out wherever!

 

This is news to me but I would be pleased if someone could explain it.

 

The standard issue SA80 round for the UK military is a Radway Green 62g FMJ. It conforms to the Geneva Convention. It is also nowhere near as good a round (manufacturing, accuracy, build quality, consistancy) as the old Radway Green 7.62. RG has been part of BAE systems for some time now and there is more than a suggestion that they want to get out of ammo production!!!

 

I have used the RG5.56 (and hundreds of the RG7.62) which is essentially a High Pressure .223, the effect on rabbits is terminal, although limited, as it is FMJ, it can often go right through and leave bunny virtually unmarked and fully in tact. Hit bunny with a HP or SP .223 and bunny will tend to be a bit of a mess!!

Edited August 2, 2008 by Deker

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Bit off-topic, but I was under the impression that a wounded enemy combatant was better than a dead one, because some bugger had to do something about a wounded man, raher than just leaving the body till later.

That's how I'd been schooled too. A dead soldier lies on the ground, collected when everything has finished. A wounded soldier screams in agony, demoralising his comrades and requiring two men to carry him away from the battle field.

 

Doesn't the 5.56 round tumble as a product of it's design, when fired from assault rifles?

[Malt 379]

I'm a little intrigued about the 5.56 bullet bouncing all around the body and coming out wherever!

 

This is news to me but I would be pleased if someone could explain it.

 

The standard issue SA80 round for the UK military is a Radway Green 62g FMJ. It conforms to the Geneva Convention. It is also nowhere near as good a round (manufacturing, accuracy, build quality, consistancy) as the old Radway Green 7.62. RG has been part of BAE systems for some time now and there is more than a suggestion that they want to get out of ammo production!!!

 

I have used the RG5.56 which is essentially a High Pressure .223, the effect on rabbits is terminal, although limited, as it is FMJ, it can often go right through and leave bunny virtually unmarked and fully in tact. Hit bunny with a HP or SP .223 and bunny will tend to be a bit of a mess!!

I don't know how they're supposed to work, but that's what they tell the sqauddies about them. My brother, three cousins & a mate were all told it. Whether or not it's propaganda, I don't know.