mC HULL 13,805 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done I think we may be at cross purposes here and you've misunderstood what I'm saying. "Prey Drive" isn't what I'm arguing about it's this notion that they need to come from working stock to have it. i agree they don't have to come from working stock to have it but if both have parent's have excellent prey drive is there not more of a chance the pup's will have it to LOL I'm not disagreeing with you mate cause this has gone away from my original arguement which was in relation to making fox dogs from pups from non working parents. Some lads think that its something a dog is born with I just happen to think that it isnt and needs to be instilled in your dog. lol will have to agree to disagree then Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done I think we may be at cross purposes here and you've misunderstood what I'm saying. "Prey Drive" isn't what I'm arguing about it's this notion that they need to come from working stock to have it. i agree they don't have to come from working stock to have it but if both have parent's have excellent prey drive is there not more of a chance the pup's will have it to LOL I'm not disagreeing with you mate cause this has gone away from my original arguement which was in relation to making fox dogs from pups from non working parents. Some lads think that its something a dog is born with I just happen to think that it isnt and needs to be instilled in your dog. lol will have to agree to disagree then I'll to that Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 (edited) i wonder of the old dave hancock is reading this himself i would love to see an article on him regarding his own legacy left to the lurcher world.iv met the old man a few times,he wouldnt give 2 fu*ks what anyone thinks or says.i had a beardie boarder 3 8th 5 8ths g,hound dog off him,my mate owns him now,iv stuck to my own working collie line.the dog my mate now has is very slow in starting,think he'l do well on big game this year,i dont think he'l have a problem with me saying that the dog is haveing trouble with his strike,although no trouble getting up on his quarry,seems to depend what mopod his in if he hits hedges or watches his rabbits in,he hunts up very well using his nose and eyes,this winter will tell.go for working parants imo Edited July 25, 2008 by ooty Quote Link to post
miss lurcher bitch 319 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 (edited) . Edited November 8, 2011 by miss lurcher bitch Quote Link to post
wheaton x 3 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 my mate keeps hancock dogs and his oldest dog killed foxes but i cant really comment on the one he has at the min because it has not really been enterd to them but its probably one of the best rabbit dogs ive ever seen.it has lined one of my outher frends bitches and hes got a nice litter of pups ther for sale at a very reasonable price they are ready now he has merles and reds heres my number if [bANNED TEXT] interested 07864761543.the only thing is im from newcastle Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 every dog is differnt,even he aint bred 2 the same,his bred some good dogs over the years and some shit ones,same as anyone who trys breeding lurchers,any other dog come to that, Quote Link to post
lamping-lad 160 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 every dog is differnt,even he aint bred 2 the same,his bred some good dogs over the years and some shit ones,same as anyone who trys breeding lurchers,any other dog come to that, i agree. you pay your money and take a chance. Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 well we have 3 hancock dogs here and all do the job that there asked but i would not go there any more id rather do me own line but i cant falt the dogs we have of him as had no problems with them you like them or you dont i love the merls but its not just couler and you always get people say are they blind coz of blue eye how can the dog work blind just makes me laugh there just as good as any other lurcher in right hands as any dog Good points well made... the white eye comes from the collie and has no effect on its eyesight.... Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,837 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 well we have 3 hancock dogs here and all do the job that there asked but i would not go there any more id rather do me own line but i cant falt the dogs we have of him as had no problems with them you like them or you dont i love the merls but its not just couler and you always get people say are they blind coz of blue eye how can the dog work blind just makes me laugh there just as good as any other lurcher in right hands as any dog Good points well made... the white eye comes from the collie and has no effect on its eyesight.... Unless you cross a merle with a merle, and end up with a blind and deaf litter! Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
Guest ooty Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 (edited) well we have 3 hancock dogs here and all do the job that there asked but i would not go there any more id rather do me own line but i cant falt the dogs we have of him as had no problems with them you like them or you dont i love the merls but its not just couler and you always get people say are they blind coz of blue eye how can the dog work blind just makes me laugh there just as good as any other lurcher in right hands as any dog Good points well made... the white eye comes from the collie and has no effect on its eyesight.... Unless you cross a merle with a merle, and end up with a blind and deaf litter! Cheers, D. iv bred several merles out of my own lines..(no hancock blood in there but i would use the right dog..) depends what kind of merle you use,if both dogs are mainly white then you stand a chance of the above pluss skin cancers etc,but if crossing dog with mainly a dark colour merle over their whole boby this is not the case,good coloured healthy pups cad be bred, Edited July 26, 2008 by ooty Quote Link to post
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