doga 50 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done to be fair any mongral bred from a greyhound will chase have prey drive it would be very unusual for it not to,thats not going into anything else feet strike ect,though even at hancocks from of the transporter some of the greys have been coursed. Quote Link to post
Brummy 9 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Do you agree that he breeds pups off non working collies, greyhounds and lurchers in filthy conditions ? Have you read any of the posts on this subject?...I've stated quite clearly the grey dams are unworked and to my knowledge the stud dogs are too! As for living in filthy conditions he breeds literally 100's of pups and has god knows how many stud dogs and brood bitches. Show me a kennel with that amount of dogs that wouldn't ping a bit. The pups are well cared for and it wouldn't be a good showcase for a breeder to have filthy conditions he'd soon go out of buisness....he must be doing something right for all those folk to go back to him... but in your opinion we're all of our heads anyway....so your minds made up about this line of dogs lets move on before it decends into a my dogs better than yours thread again. So Undisputed despite the fact Hancock pups are off untested stock you are evangelical in your use/recommendation of the dogs? You talk utter nonsense don't you? Like all Hancock clones you are blinkered and believe that you are special for making shite stock work to some degree ! You sound foolish at best you ridiculous f*****g moron ! Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Do you agree that he breeds pups off non working collies, greyhounds and lurchers in filthy conditions ? Have you read any of the posts on this subject?...I've stated quite clearly the grey dams are unworked and to my knowledge the stud dogs are too! As for living in filthy conditions he breeds literally 100's of pups and has god knows how many stud dogs and brood bitches. Show me a kennel with that amount of dogs that wouldn't ping a bit. The pups are well cared for and it wouldn't be a good showcase for a breeder to have filthy conditions he'd soon go out of buisness....he must be doing something right for all those folk to go back to him... but in your opinion we're all of our heads anyway....so your minds made up about this line of dogs lets move on before it decends into a my dogs better than yours thread again. So Undisputed despite the fact Hancock pups are off untested stock you are evangelical in your use/recommendation of the dogs? You talk utter nonsense don't you? Like all Hancock clones you are blinkered and believe that you are special for making shite stock work to some degree ! You sound foolish at best you ridiculous f*****g moron ! Not bad for untested stock bawbag is it but you'll prob say that was a rabbit or something that did that Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 ok undisputed , very funny ha ha , i fell for it hook line and sinker , mate i honestly thought you was being serious with everything you wrote .....why you little .......... ok! you got me what the f**k you on about? Quote Link to post
gaz 284 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Ive agreed with some posts and disagreed with others regarding this thread but hey thats the dog game for you,but cmon lads lets try and draw a line under all this bitching because at the end of the day we all keep em for the same reason..the war is to be fought against them that would like to see us having no dogs in our kennels whether they be hancocks,bully's,beddie's ect ect,so with a new season now upon us once again lets all have a jolly good time with em and once again stick two defiant fingers up at the real enemy who threaten our way of life....All the best to all you scallywags with whatever your running this season and good luck for the coming season Quote Link to post
Brummy 9 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Well done mate you found a doggy with a marked up face ! Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Well done mate you found a doggy with a marked up face ! :wankerzo4: Aye ah sure did and its a f*****g Hancock tae!...but your the man in the know aint yah! Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,396 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done to be fair any mongral bred from a greyhound will chase have prey drive it would be very unusual for it not to,thats not going into anything else feet strike ect,though even at hancocks from of the transporter some of the greys have been coursed. that is because your mongral bred greyhound is still a lurcher and like i said the prey drive is bred in them as for collie x's i do rate them as a good working breed but i have never seen one of hancock's run so can't comment Quote Link to post
doga 50 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done to be fair any mongral bred from a greyhound will chase have prey drive it would be very unusual for it not to,thats not going into anything else feet strike ect,though even at hancocks from of the transporter some of the greys have been coursed. that is because your mongral bred greyhound is still a lurcher and like i said the prey drive is bred in them as for collie x's i do rate them as a good working breed but i have never seen one of hancock's run so can't comment no no you did not read your own post you said proven workers as in lurchers,me well you know what i put are you saying im incorrect. Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done I think we may be at cross purposes here and you've misunderstood what I'm saying. "Prey Drive" isn't what I'm arguing about it's this notion that they need to come from working stock to have it. Quote Link to post
Guest oldskool Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 i said at the start that these hancock threads always turn into a bitching match... guess what i'm right Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,396 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done to be fair any mongral bred from a greyhound will chase have prey drive it would be very unusual for it not to,thats not going into anything else feet strike ect,though even at hancocks from of the transporter some of the greys have been coursed. that is because your mongral bred greyhound is still a lurcher and like i said the prey drive is bred in them as for collie x's i do rate them as a good working breed but i have never seen one of hancock's run so can't comment no no you did not read your own post you said proven workers as in lurchers,me well you know what i put are you saying im incorrect. a greyhound chase's because it was bred for that the prey drive is in it and a lurcher is normally a cross between a greyhound and a terrier or collie Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,396 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done I think we may be at cross purposes here and you've misunderstood what I'm saying. "Prey Drive" isn't what I'm arguing about it's this notion that they need to come from working stock to have it. i agree they don't have to come from working stock to have it but if both have parent's have excellent prey drive is there not more of a chance the pup's will have it to Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done I think we may be at cross purposes here and you've misunderstood what I'm saying. "Prey Drive" isn't what I'm arguing about it's this notion that they need to come from working stock to have it. i agree they don't have to come from working stock to have it but if both have parent's have excellent prey drive is there not more of a chance the pup's will have it to LOL I'm not disagreeing with you mate cause this has gone away from my original arguement which was in relation to making fox dogs from pups from non working parents. Some lads think that its something a dog is born with I just happen to think that it isnt and needs to be instilled in your dog. Quote Link to post
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