scouser3038 1 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Why wouldnt you buy a dog from Hancocks? Reason is simple mate,he's a puppy farmer.The man clearly has a great understanding of collie crosse's and has over the years produced some fine dogs,but his methods now leave a bad taste in my mouth.If a dog is earning its keep in whatever way,it should be well cared for and rewarded,not kept caged up as a "rent a womb".I have no problem with David Hancock earning a living from his knowledge of dogs,but i'm sure it could be done differently.As i always say,it's just my opinion and what the f*ck do i know? My old man kept bred and worked collie x greys for nearly 50 years,as far as my old man was concerned they were the most reliable cross as an all rounder,and he reckoned a lower failiure rate than most. Thats something I totally agree with, all them dogs are just a piece of meat to him who earn him a bit of cash!!! I spent nearly £300 in the vets on my pup when i got him all due to the shitty grub he was feeding them!!! Probably the cheapest food you can buy!!! Quote Link to post
gaz 284 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Why wouldnt you buy a dog from Hancocks? Reason is simple mate,he's a puppy farmer.The man clearly has a great understanding of collie crosse's and has over the years produced some fine dogs,but his methods now leave a bad taste in my mouth.If a dog is earning its keep in whatever way,it should be well cared for and rewarded,not kept caged up as a "rent a womb".I have no problem with David Hancock earning a living from his knowledge of dogs,but i'm sure it could be done differently.As i always say,it's just my opinion and what the f*ck do i know? My old man kept bred and worked collie x greys for nearly 50 years,as far as my old man was concerned they were the most reliable cross as an all rounder,and he reckoned a lower failiure rate than most. Thats something I totally agree with, all them dogs are just a piece of meat to him who earn him a bit of cash!!! I spent nearly £300 in the vets on my pup when i got him all due to the shitty grub he was feeding them!!! Probably the cheapest food you can buy!!! Alright scouser,im intreuged with what your pup was diagnosed with that justifyed your vet taking £300 of you mate ? it must have been right nasty shit it was getting fed...short of being poisoned i cant think of any thing that could be fed to a pup to justify any vet taking that kind of money out my pocket blaming what it was being fed...even the very cheapest of food as you say. Quote Link to post
gavmac 0 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 All I can say is thank god that the likes of Buck ,brae sorrel and any other of the previous generation who srived for the best did not have the same way of thinking as you undisputed or the modern working dog would be in a sorry state Or in an even worse state if left to you your blowing out yer arse man....totally clueless! but I to obvious superior knowledge Totally clueless Nae bad Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Do you agree that he breeds pups off non working collies, greyhounds and lurchers in filthy conditions ? Have you read any of the posts on this subject?...I've stated quite clearly the grey dams are unworked and to my knowledge the stud dogs are too! As for living in filthy conditions he breeds literally 100's of pups and has god knows how many stud dogs and brood bitches. Show me a kennel with that amount of dogs that wouldn't ping a bit. The pups are well cared for and it wouldn't be a good showcase for a breeder to have filthy conditions he'd soon go out of buisness....he must be doing something right for all those folk to go back to him... but in your opinion we're all of our heads anyway....so your minds made up about this line of dogs lets move on before it decends into a my dogs better than yours thread again. Quote Link to post
Guest smashygadge Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 not still arguing about good dogs are we boys Quote Link to post
scouser3038 1 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Why wouldnt you buy a dog from Hancocks? Reason is simple mate,he's a puppy farmer.The man clearly has a great understanding of collie crosse's and has over the years produced some fine dogs,but his methods now leave a bad taste in my mouth.If a dog is earning its keep in whatever way,it should be well cared for and rewarded,not kept caged up as a "rent a womb".I have no problem with David Hancock earning a living from his knowledge of dogs,but i'm sure it could be done differently.As i always say,it's just my opinion and what the f*ck do i know? My old man kept bred and worked collie x greys for nearly 50 years,as far as my old man was concerned they were the most reliable cross as an all rounder,and he reckoned a lower failiure rate than most. Thats something I totally agree with, all them dogs are just a piece of meat to him who earn him a bit of cash!!! I spent nearly £300 in the vets on my pup when i got him all due to the shitty grub he was feeding them!!! Probably the cheapest food you can buy!!! Alright scouser,im intreuged with what your pup was diagnosed with that justifyed your vet taking £300 of you mate ? it must have been right nasty shit it was getting fed...short of being poisoned i cant think of any thing that could be fed to a pup to justify any vet taking that kind of money out my pocket blaming what it was being fed...even the very cheapest of food as you say. Basically the dog had a bad case of the shits due to the food it was being fed and as a result began passing blood in its shit and was dehydrated it had to stay in the vets 3 nights on a drip and then two weeks of being fed fresh chicken and rice before it was right!! When i rang DH up he tried to blame it on the drive home and that a number of the pups reacted like this the first time in a car but the vet put it down to the shite he was feeding it!!!! Quote Link to post
Guest wex Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Come on now scouser i know you feed it "CHAPPIE" Quote Link to post
scouser3038 1 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Come on now scouser i know you feed it "CHAPPIE" Pedigree Chum he's on now only the best for my dogs! Quote Link to post
Guest wex Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Pedigree chum hey! mine are on irish chappie. Its well better than the english variety and you can get guiness flavour Quote Link to post
scouser3038 1 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Pedigree chum hey! mine are on irish chappie. Its well better than the english variety and you can get guiness flavour I've just nearly spewed up imagineing the smell of Freds farts of that!!!!!!!!!!!! Guinness and Chappie :sick: Theyre bad enough off the fresh chicken!!!! Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,296 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done away an bile yer heid! Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,296 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done away an bile yer heid! if you breed of dog's with a good mouth high prey drive good feet etc all the thing's you need in a working dog there's more off a chance them pups will have that passed on breeding of none worker's is not the way forward Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 does he just breed them or does he actually work them? He's in his 70's now ...dont think he works any of his stud dogs but I could be wrong....do you think its important? well yeah cos if i was buying a WORKING dog a would at least want one off of working parents!!!! Why?....dogs arn't born workers thats something they have to learn...and given that any pup you buy is around the 7 - 8 week mark it wont have learned anything from mum. and in the case of a 3/4grey x the likelyhood is that the dam hasn't been worked..so it dont really matter doe's it? shite!!!!!!!!! a prey drive isn't taught they chase because it's in them breeding off proven worker's is the way it has alway's been done away an bile yer heid! if you breed of dog's with a good mouth high prey drive good feet etc all the thing's you need in a working dog there's more off a chance them pups will have that passed on breeding of none worker's is not the way forward Not disagreeing with some of the genetic traits such as mouth, feet,,,just this notion that in order for a dog to do foxes it needs to be from working stock...any type of puppy will chase a moving object out of curiosty mostly and its down to you how you harness this Quote Link to post
Guest bigredbusa Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 ok undisputed , very funny ha ha , i fell for it hook line and sinker , mate i honestly thought you was being serious with everything you wrote .....why you little .......... Quote Link to post
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