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(quote undisputed) . Succesive goverments have done nothing to help the situation and began with Thatchers destruction of all our Heavy Industries such as Coal, Steel and Shipbuilding to name but a few. ..... SHE did and good for her, she could see that these industries wre finished and were a thing of the past its thirty year on and men and women are still suffering health problems from these industries, at the time people went mad because of what she did but ask them now ask them the conditions they worked in and they shivers run down their spines when they think of what they had to do, the people moved on and and found other employment and their was other employment with wages and conditions that were at least civilised, were their that many of you old enough to work when these industries were going or is it all what you hear.

 

 

Christ I had her all wrong then...she did this for the good of the country,,,,thanks for clearing that up

[jacob 28]

if they doffed their caps to you ....or would you prefer to be called "Massa"

thats an idea undisputed ..........nope ......thinking about its already been done

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Undisputed says "The Treaty of Union declares that England and Scotland shall become one kingdom, with the same monarchy and succession, a single parliament (‘the Parliament of Great Britain’), and equal trade and economic rights. Some clauses permit the continuation of Scottish institutions (such as the burgh and legal systems). Other institutions, such as the Great Seal (used to signify state approval) were remade as a new ‘British’ version. However, most clauses stated that Union was to be obtained by Scotland adopting the existing English form, for example with regard to customs and excise duties, weights and measures and coinage. The English representation in the House of Commons and the House of Lords remained unchanged, while Scotland would send 16 peers to the Lords and 45 MPs (burgh and shire commissioners) to the Commons."

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The Treaty of the Union was not ratified/decided by the Scottish people it was put in place by what Robert Burns describes as "We're bought and sold for English gold- Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!" It was a small minority of the Scottish elite who sold Scottish independance for financial gain, and as for the great seal what about "The Honours of Scotland" rediscovered in Edinburgh Castle the worlds oldest collection of crown jewels and the ultimate symbol of Scottish nationhhood,

 

Tom

 

 

Ps : as for the movie Braveheart, what a load of shit!! An Australian,playing a Scottish folk hero with an Irish/American accent it was historicaly inaccurate and just plain wrong, the Freedom speech in the movie was terrible!! because it took the Declaration of Arbroath out of context and para-phrased it!! Did you know that Scots were one of the first people to display a democratic tendency In the Declartion Scots asked for the right to depose and replace the monachy if it failed to serve the people

 

Dont shoot the messenger Tom not my words...lifted straight from scottish exec web site

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(quote undisputed) . Succesive goverments have done nothing to help the situation and began with Thatchers destruction of all our Heavy Industries such as Coal, Steel and Shipbuilding to name but a few. ..... SHE did and good for her, she could see that these industries wre finished and were a thing of the past its thirty year on and men and women are still suffering health problems from these industries, at the time people went mad because of what she did but ask them now ask them the conditions they worked in and they shivers run down their spines when they think of what they had to do, the people moved on and and found other employment and their was other employment with wages and conditions that were at least civilised, were their that many of you old enough to work when these industries were going or is it all what you hear.

 

 

Christ I had her all wrong then...she did this for the good of the country,,,,thanks for clearing that up

 

no probs anytime i can help

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My views have just as much right to be here as anyone elses.

 

these threads have a tendancy to slip away from the first purpose anyway.

 

 

i havent been on here for a while, but these two quotes just about say it all.

[Guest WILF]

Just my opinion on Maxs post, but the unions were to blame for Thatchers actions, they had this country on its knees and good hard working men, along with the communities they lived in were the casultys of that war.

Feck unions and the leaders of such groups, greedy politicians by any other name.

[Stabs 3]

Max is right, I saw it with my village when the railways were shut down. There was a documentary out at the time that I have on dvd and there's despair on the faces of those men. I even remember talk of civil war! It sounds extreme now but that's the way it looked back then. My own family had to take Tebbit's advice to "get on your bikes" and the family was broken up with lads shifted to Doncaster, Derby etc to find graft. Funnily enough, they've all come back now. As max said there's still coal as the fuckers are ruining the countryside with their open cast digging.

 

It's because of this many can't bring themselves to vote anything other than Labour. I hated the Tories fanatically when I grew up but what's done is done...it's in the past. Labour trade on this blinkered view and blind loyalty. It's history now and as much as I promised to dance on Thatcher's grave when I was a teenager, I have learned to open my eyes and see what's right for this country NOW....Thatcher and the strike is history as much as all that Scottish stuff the Jock lads are talking about. Moaning about the past and slights real or imagined won't help going forward.

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Max is right, I saw it with my village when the railways were shut down. There was a documentary out at the time that I have on dvd and there's despair on the faces of those men. I even remember talk of civil war! It sounds extreme now but that's the way it looked back then. My own family had to take Tebbit's advice to "get on your bikes" and the family was broken up with lads shifted to Doncaster, Derby etc to find graft. Funnily enough, they've all come back now. As max said there's still coal as the fuckers are ruining the countryside with their open cast digging.

 

It's because of this many can't bring themselves to vote anything other than Labour. I hated the Tories fanatically when I grew up but what's done is done...it's in the past. Labour trade on this blinkered view and blind loyalty. It's history now and as much as I promised to dance on Thatcher's grave when I was a teenager, I have learned to open my eyes and see what's right for this country NOW....Thatcher and the strike is history as much as all that Scottish stuff the Jock lads are talking about. Moaning about the past and slights real or imagined won't help going forward.

 

Some good points there mate but some folk in here appear to get off on blaming everything on Immigrants and especially Muslims, a bit blinkered in their views.

 

Apparently theres a party called the abolition of politicians party....now theres a thought....I think Billy Connoly summed it up best when he said "anyone with any ambition of being a politician should be automatically barred from being one"

[gaz 284]

To qoute Thatcher after her defeat of the miners "Of course, people tell me that I shouldn't gloat. Well, I am gloating " well it wont be long until its my turn to gloat........... my hatred of the woman will die with her,which shouldnt be too long now Im with maxhardcore here,its easy for folk who didnt see their communities and folk stamped into the dust by Thatcher and her boot boys to sit and pass jugment on this nasty piece of work being not a bad old spud who tore the working class of the nation to shreds !!

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Just my opinion on Maxs post, but the unions were to blame for Thatchers actions, they had this country on its knees and good hard working men, along with the communities they lived in were the casultys of that war.

Feck unions and the leaders of such groups, greedy politicians by any other name.

 

The Unions wern't all bad if they didn't exist working conditions for a lot of working class people would have been a lot harsher. Poor people were exploited to the point of death by some of these so called "captains of Industry" Sure they had their bad points but the benefits they provided far out weighed the negatives. These days theyr'e not worth a piss.

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The Unions wern't all bad if they didn't exist working conditions for a lot of working class people would have been a lot harsher. Poor people were exploited to the point of death by some of these so called "captains of Industry" Sure they had their bad points but the benefits they provided far out weighed the negatives. These days theyr'e not worth a piss.

I can agree with that. Enjoying your weekend? You can thank the Unions for that...

 

What really boils my piss is that people are still moaning about Thatcher. Before anyone starts on me, I have no admiration for this woman at all, but I can't travel back in time and change anything she f****d up. Same way you can't.

 

My issue lies at the fact she was ousted in 1990 and it's now 2008. Basically we had a further 7 years of Tory rule followed by 11 years of a so called Labour government funded by these so called unions. What the f**k happened in the last two decades?

 

In the last 18 years we've done absolutely f**k all to remedy the problems, in this country, and we're reaping what we've sown.

 

The sole responsibility for this ridiculous situation lies at the feet of the British public. We have seen successive governments bully, harass and stomp us into the ground and despite this all we can do is moan about Thatcher, muslims and illegal immigrants. All of which have no bearing on any of this country's major problems.

 

Ladies and Gentlemen. We get the government we deserve. As no one is prepared to do anything about it then this will continue until we do. The sad fact is that Britain would rather argue about it, on internet message boards, than actually go out and make a difference. You might be sat here reading this saying 'Well, you obnoxious c**t, I vote and I canvass and do what I can...' this isn't aimed at you... it's the other 65 million sheeple that sit on their fat arses and do absolutely f**k all. You're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem and looking at the current situation it's not hard to see who is winning.

[boris b 1]

mr mrs gave birth to twins 4 hours ago , if divs like the bnp run this country we would have been fúcked .

[Strong Stuff 2,171]

mr mrs gave birth to twins 4 hours ago , if divs like the bnp run this country we would have been fúcked .

 

"This country"? Not being funny like but you've got another nations flag as your home flag.

[shepp 2,285]

I have never felt such a feeling of them and us as i have with this present lot in government, they have politicised everything including the police and the BBC who are shit scared of loosing the licence fee. Local governments are issued money in dribs and drabs so that central government can controll what they spend it on and the NHS is run by lefty yes people who just want to massage figures to make the government look good. Much like the police.

Most of the people in these positions find the jobs on the Guardian so it keeps all in Labours fold.

The only consolation is they only have another two more years to f**k up the country, before they are out.

[SEAN3513 7]

I have never felt such a feeling of them and us as i have with this present lot in government, they have politicised everything including the police and the BBC who are shit scared of loosing the licence fee. Local governments are issued money in dribs and drabs so that central government can controll what they spend it on and the NHS is run by lefty yes people who just want to massage figures to make the government look good. Much like the police.

Most of the people in these positions find the jobs on the Guardian so it keeps all in Labours fold.

The only consolation is they only have another two more years to f**k up the country, before they are out.

 

whats the alternative ?????

 

we as the british public need to stand up and demand....what WE want!!!!

 

cheers

 

sean