I know what it is..

[Chaz 6]

is there any kind o f scientific proof of split litters? ive heard alot about them but never no hard facts?

 

 

A basic read

 

Split litters

 

 

but it is common practice in some kennels and breeds

Edited July 17, 2008 by Chaz

[sandymere 8,263]

Split litter is the most realistic answer as the chances of a throw back of that degree is very very small. If so are there any likely looking strays in the area to report to the CSA.

[Billie-Boy 0]

gonna be putting dam sire and the pups sister brother pics on tomorrow,

 

And as I keep saying its impossible to be a split litter..

the bitch [1/4 bull 3/4 grey] was only mated with the bullx [3/4 bull 1/4 grey]

and no other dog.. 100% was not caught with any other dog..

her only mate ever has been with this dog,

 

Again the only explainable answer has come from

 

QUOTE (spep21 @ Jul 16 2008, 10:00 PM)

I have bullx's and one of the pups from a litter of 10 has a slightly broken coat but is still very racey. I have been told tat it is from the bull terrier side as they are line bred and inbred alot and every certain amount of generations some different genetic pool gets inserted into the gene pool to shake things up. This could be a wheaton for example and so every now and then there may well be something that is not quite what is expected. I have read up on this and it is quite plausible.

Edited July 17, 2008 by Billie-Boy

[Kye 77]

A split litter IS a possibilty, unless someone was with the bitch, 24-7 whilst in her heat cycle...if you REALY want to find out how/what happened, just get the DNA test done mate...your asking what happened, people have given you there opnions etc, and you are dimissing them...nothing wrong with that, but just check it out anyway mate...let us know how you get on.

 

Kye..

[Chaz 6]

A split litter IS a possibilty, unless someone was with the bitch, 24-7 whilst in her heat cycle...if you REALY want to find out how/what happened, just get the DNA test done mate...your asking what happened, people have given you there opnions etc, and you are dimissing them...nothing wrong with that, but just check it out anyway mate...let us know how you get on.

 

Kye..

 

 

 

Have to agree if the dog does turn out a world beater what are the chances that people are going to believe the breeding if you ever breed off it unless you have the DNA cert proving your point

[loose dog 0]

I once had a little beardie dog that got the blame for the pups that a neighbours bitch had. The bitch was shut in a chicken shed that was completely closed except for a six inch hole in the chicken wire that covered a window and this was five feet up. I'm not sure that my dog could jump five feet and get through a six inch hole and the pup that i felt obliged to take off there hands looked nothing like my dog. Wondering if you had missed a hole somewere?

[Billie-Boy 0]

I once had a little beardie dog that got the blame for the pups that a neighbours bitch had. The bitch was shut in a chicken shed that was completely closed except for a six inch hole in the chicken wire that covered a window and this was five feet up. I'm not sure that my dog could jump five feet and get through a six inch hole and the pup that i felt obliged to take off there hands looked nothing like my dog. Wondering if you had missed a hole somewere?

 

I have Bred dogs for well over 20 years and certainly know what i am talking about..

My mate that bred these pups and also has bred pups for over 30 years,

There is absolutly no way any other dog has been near the bitch... 100% certain..

This is why this is such a mystery mate..

 

here is a pic of the pup he kept and the mother and also the grandfather

will put some pics on at weekend of the sire (who is 3/4 bull 1/4 grey) and one of the racey pups..

The pup he has kept is twice the size of the one I have but same thick coat..

[Billie-Boy 0]

Some pics of the pup my mate kept...

[Billie-Boy 0]

and nother pic of the pup I have

[Billie-Boy 0]

ive never seen a long haired bullx .

 

bullx for over 30 years,

 

 

 

 

 

 

the first bullxs in the country were bred in 83' and thats a fact, so only 25 years ago.

 

I said we had bred dogs.... that doesnt just mean bullx

try putting the full quote in ...

Edited July 17, 2008 by Billie-Boy

[Dawn B 212]

Could I show the pics to my friend? she is a canine colour genetisist and may be able to determine whether what you are saying is possible? What is the father, do you have a pic?

[BIG BULL X 0]

i would nt of said that bitch has just come off pup either looks too slim and far too fit

[chartpolski 23,952]

ive never seen a long haired bullx .

 

bullx for over 30 years,

 

 

 

 

 

 

the first bullxs in the country were bred in 83' and thats a fact, so only 25 years ago.

 

Where on earth did you get that fact from ??????? There were bull Xs in Lemington, Newcastle, in the early 70's, and that IS a fact !! And I'm sure they will have been bred long before that elsewhere !!!

Cheers.

[hollands hope 1,024]

"Because the bitch has been caught before or after the "bull x" got there; a split mating, as others have suggested.

Cheers."

 

 

 

The bitch had not mated with any other dog, at all, its impossible for that to have happened,

and this mate was her very first mate and litter..

are your kennel doors locked at night, there,s also the possebillty that someone is taking the piss with you and did throw in a mongrel that you were unaware of ,the chances of a throwback are minimal, but five in one litter nearly impossible unless higly inbred, are the dogs by any chance related ,as said before a split litter most likely scenario in this case Edited July 18, 2008 by hollands hope

[Strong Stuff 2,171]

ive never seen a long haired bullx .

 

bullx for over 30 years,

 

 

 

 

 

 

the first bullxs in the country were bred in 83' and thats a fact, so only 25 years ago.

 

Where on earth did you get that fact from ??????? There were bull Xs in Lemington, Newcastle, in the early 70's, and that IS a fact !! And I'm sure they will have been bred long before that elsewhere !!!

Cheers.

 

 

Probably Ed Reid told him that, just before trying to sell him a pup out of "the gamest pitbull in all of Englandshire", only 2 grand to you ...........

 

I hadn't realised that Bull X's had been around so long, guess it was Staffords and EBT's that made the Bull side back then?

 

 

That pup .............. you should have said you had that, I'd have had more chance if I'd taken that home of having a quiet life!

 

The theory about the make up of some Bull lines, the line my own "Stafford" is from, is supposed to be pure, but when you go 5 or generations back, you have indeed got EBT, KC Staffords, Petbulls, undoubtedly the odd Wheaten to bring the drive back up, and dare I say it ............. most probably Weinmarner for that pretty blue colour and the athletic look.

 

Have seen Staffords with some long coarse coats, but not like Little Ted here!!