FAC open ticket????

[Guest basil46]

I got my 243 on supervisory grounds on my first grant. Does that mean that, on first grant, if you stand in the middle of the highlands, fire a 150 grain bullet into the wilderness, you can have an open ticket because there will be something in the way somewhere that will stop that 150 grain bullet??

basil.

[Rentomski 0]

I got my 243 on supervisory grounds on my first grant. Does that mean that, on first grant, if you stand in the middle of the highlands, fire a 150 grain bullet into the wilderness, you can have an open ticket because there will be something in the way somewhere that will stop that 150 grain bullet??

basil.

 

DSC 1 and 6000 acres of permission does help my application!

[bouncer 51]

Wondering if anyone can help me.Have owned a .17HMR for over 2 years now.On my FAC it says that i can shoot on land deemed fit by the police.So i am wanting to apply for an open ticket.How do i go about this?? help on this will be greatly appriciated.

when i tried for open ticket they told me after three years you have one automatically.i also put a letter in with the forms asking for an open ticket

[macberran 2]

Never applied, 18mnths on a .22mrf and .222, .243 variation for a .308 chap came out, long chat and I was then offered an open. ok then...............

[richie 1]

what do you lads class as an open ticket ?

 

i tell you why i ask, on my additional conditions it states the following...

 

" the .22 rimfire rifle (s), sound moderator (s) & ammunition shown on this certificate shall be used for shooting vermin & for zeroing on ranges, or land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police for the area where the land is situated & over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot "

 

these conditions are a closed license. i was having a discussion with a bloke a while back & he said he had an open ticket with these same conditions, their was no telling him he had a closed ticket.

 

what is the wording on the open licenses you lot have?

 

rich

[Fidgety 8]

Mine says the same as yours Richie, my Firearms officer told me it was a semi-open. From that I assumed a closed ticket was for your approved land only.

[richie 1]

Mine says the same as yours Richie, my Firearms officer told me it was a semi-open. From that I assumed a closed ticket was for your approved land only.

 

 

yeah youre right... our conditions only allow us to shoot on land that has been passed for a certain calibre.

 

i spoke to mike evely at the BASC firearms department, & he stated that an open ticket will allow a person to shoot on what ever land he deems suitable & sees fit & will except all responsibility as long as he has permission from the tenent / land owner.

 

 

rich

[Guest basil46]

Well, i wouldn`t want to accept an invitation to shoot in Scotland. All over the highlands theres blokes with "open licenses" god help us.

basil.

[lgray88 4]

these are the open conditions on my open licence :

 

 

Condition 1 : the fireamrs and ammunition may be used for pest control and for zeroing on ranges or land over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot and may also be used for target shooting on ranges where a safety certificate for that class of firearm has been issued by the competent authorty

 

 

Condtion 2: The certificate holder may possess , purchase or acquire expanding ammunition, or the missles of such ammunition, in the calibers authorised by this certificate and use only in connection with: a) the lawful shooting of deer the shooting of vermin or , in connection with the management of any estate , other wildlife c) the human killing of animals; d) the shooting of animals for the protection of other animals or humans.

[richie 1]

these are the open conditions on my open licence :

 

 

Condition 1 : the fireamrs and ammunition may be used for pest control and for zeroing on ranges or land over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot and may also be used for target shooting on ranges where a safety certificate for that class of firearm has been issued by the competent authorty

 

 

Condtion 2: The certificate holder may possess , purchase or acquire expanding ammunition, or the missles of such ammunition, in the calibers authorised by this certificate and use only in connection with: a) the lawful shooting of deer the shooting of vermin or , in connection with the management of any estate , other wildlife c) the human killing of animals; d) the shooting of animals for the protection of other animals or humans.

 

 

cheers for that... thats what i would agree is an open ticket..

 

rich

[Toma413 1]

these are the open conditions on my open licence :

 

 

Condition 1 : the fireamrs and ammunition may be used for pest control and for zeroing on ranges or land over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot and may also be used for target shooting on ranges where a safety certificate for that class of firearm has been issued by the competent authorty

 

 

Condtion 2: The certificate holder may possess , purchase or acquire expanding ammunition, or the missles of such ammunition, in the calibers authorised by this certificate and use only in connection with: a) the lawful shooting of deer the shooting of vermin or , in connection with the management of any estate , other wildlife c) the human killing of animals; d) the shooting of animals for the protection of other animals or humans.

 

 

cheers for that... thats what i would agree is an open ticket..

 

rich

 

 

Thanks everyone for the help.

[jamie g 17]

a closed ticket is one what will have the name of the farm you shoot over on. this would have been passed by the police.

 

a semi open ticket is one which says " the .22 rimfire rifle (s), sound moderator (s) & ammunition shown on this certificate shall be used for shooting vermin & for zeroing on ranges, or land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police for the area where the land is situated & over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot "

 

so you could go to a friends farm and shhot as long as it was passed for your rifles. so if you have 22lr and hmr

but his land is passed up to 22 centrefire then your fine any rifle under that will be fine to use as long as you have permission to shoot there.

 

a open ticket is the firearms and ammunition may be used for pest control and for zeroing on ranges or land over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot and may also be used for target shooting on ranges where a safety certificate for that class of firearm has been issued by the competent authorty

 

this is classed as a open ticket as it dont say anything about the land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police for the area

 

you dont really see any closed tickets anymore which has the farm name on them. if you have this then you can only shhot the rifles where it says on your ticket.

Edited July 17, 2008 by jamie g

[jamie g 17]

I got my 243 on supervisory grounds on my first grant. Does that mean that, on first grant, if you stand in the middle of the highlands, fire a 150 grain bullet into the wilderness, you can have an open ticket because there will be something in the way somewhere that will stop that 150 grain bullet??

basil.

 

 

i agree with you in a way mate. it dont matter if your in the highlands or in the west midlands you still have to make sure the shot is safe.

 

but the police in scotland go by the fact that its more remote so there is less chance of someone getting injuried

 

which seams silly to me but i guess the police down here just cover there back. i have 22/250 and to use it i have to be with a mentor it doesnt say a mentors name on my ticket it can be anyone who has owned one or still has one. i dont mind as i perfer to shoot with someone then on my own its safer i think.

 

i no other people with open tickets that have offered me to shoot over there land but as they have open ticket i dont no if there land is passed for my rifles.

 

so i phoned the west merica firearms department and told the woman this on the phone about i have been offered to shoot on other land but the people that have offered me this has open ticket for there rimfire and centrefire rifles so i dont no if there land is passed.

 

she told me that as long as i have permission to shoot there by there farmers and im with them i can take my rifle there !!!! now that to me is wrong as the land hasnt been passed and on my ticket it states land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police for the area ???

 

i told her this and she said again AS LONG AS I WAS WITH A MENTOR I WOULD BE FINE !! I DONT FEEL VERY EASY GOING ABOUT THAT SO IM GOING TO ASK FOR HER TO PUT IT IN WRITING JUST INCASE ! I GET STOPPED OVER THERE OR ANYTHING

 

i dont think they no some of the rules there self sometimes ive been told of cases where people are mentor to someone who has centrefire on there ticket yet the mentor only has rimfires there self ! how does that work out ?

[rizzini 1]

Do you have to write on you FAC application for semi open or open ticket?

[Mr_Logic 5]

OK, I have never heard of or seen what you guys call a 'semi open' ticket.

 

AFAIK there are two types - open and closed. Closed says 'land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police' and open just has 'land over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot'.