Seeking permission

[LOGUNSOLO177 0]

Mate I know the pain very well!!! You just have to try and stay possitive!! I would reccomend hand delivering those letters and hope that you bump into the land owner. That way you can chat about what you would like to do and what you can offer, it worked for me!!

 

It will work out in the end mate!!

[Malt 379]

I know what it's like mate! Local permission is a bugger round here, we've got plenty of permissions about a 10-15 minute drive away, but there's loads of land lifting with rabbits on my doorstep that we can't get on. Bloody bunny huggers!

[Grim Reaper 1]

get out there and do face to face , letters are just a waste of time and can make you look like a moron who thinks the farmer too is a moron ie the geeky letter above , no offence but it's the sort of thing a 14 year old would use . Tut, Tut . . . . what is wrong with a bit of 'background' that would enable a propective landowner to get some form of good impression about you!?

 

try for crappy bits of land aswell as even the smallest amount of land then lands you with a name to use ie: i do a bit for mr smith next door and noticed coney going into your land etc ...

 

OK, first thing, on personal standpoint, i wrote my letter in the first to produce to landowners when i am 'face to face' talking with them - those i have spoken with have said it was good to see at last that someone had at least taken the time and interest to go to the trouble of actually writing a letter!

 

And by the way, I have got one positive reply from posting these 'geeky' letters

 

Secondly, how does writing a letter make a person a moron? Or for that matter, how does it also infer the status of moron on one who reads it?? Sorry, but I just don't see where the connection is made mate!?!

 

Also, who's 'geeky' letter are you talking about - mine, or Rabbit Killer's re-edited version? I posted my copy because I thought ( rather somewhat mistakenly, by the looks of your reply) they may help someone out - obviously no help in your particular case i guess?

 

Anyway, use them or don't use them - the choice is everyone's to make. There is no gun held to anyone's head in the matter. If you really don't like them, ask for them to be removed, and I'm sure the Mods will do so if they consider it appropriate - either that or simply ignore that particular post.

 

Regards,

Grim

Edited July 17, 2008 by Grim Reaper

[rabbit_killer 2]

same here i think there a good idea i run my own bussiness and just dont get time to walk round all the farms ect

i got more permishion today not to keen but was in the post office getting me stamps all 50 of em lol and a lady ask me what the hell i was posting and i told her and she wants me to shoot the local grave yard!!

 

not to sure if i want to lol

 

but they do work showed her my letter and she read and signed my permishion letter and bobs your uncle im in!!

 

it cost me roughly £30 for my stamps and enverlopes and if i get one place out of 50 letters its worth every penny for me just gota wait now

[Grim Reaper 1]

same here i think there a good idea i run my own bussiness and just dont get time to walk round all the farms ect

i got more permishion today not to keen but was in the post office getting me stamps all 50 of em lol and a lady ask me what the hell i was posting and i told her and she wants me to shoot the local grave yard!!

 

not to sure if i want to lol

 

but they do work showed her my letter and she read and signed my permishion letter and bobs your uncle im in!!

 

it cost me roughly £30 for my stamps and enverlopes and if i get one place out of 50 letters its worth every penny for me just gota wait now

 

 

Good to see its working for you mate - well done!

 

A bit of advice re grave yards - you WILL want to shoot in a cemetary mate, trust me on this one - take it from one who knows.

 

You will find Crows, Maggies, as well as a plentiful supply of squizzers/squirrels there. Plus cemetaries and crematoriums are also good places to find (usually very plump) woodies too.

 

Take this opportunity and enjoy mate!

 

By the way, i was down your way (Essex) yesterday on a job - a place by the name of South Ockenden?

 

[AHEM] If you ever feel the need for some company at the cemetary . . . . .

 

 

Regards,

Grim

Edited July 18, 2008 by Grim Reaper

[victor 10]

when ever i need premission for fox and rabbits, all i do is ask. evan if we got like center fire rifles with us. have only had one no, but she was a bitch lol. i wne back the next week end and her husban awnsered the door and was more than happy to have us there

[PhilS 0]

Thanks a lot for all the great advice and responses you have all left. I'll take it all on board and have a big push to get something this weekend! I'll hopefully be posting good news soon..

 

Thanks again,

Phil.

[Guest bigredbusa]

And by the way, I have got one positive reply from posting these 'geeky' letters

 

well done for getting 'one'

 

as you can see i think a face to face is the done thing , farmers / landowners just dont have the time to read letters and get in touch lol

 

but if you are the shy type maybe a letter is for you but i know who the farmer would give permission to

 

 

REMEMBER the first one is really important , try a church and explain about rabbits digging under headstones etc..

 

Secondly, how does writing a letter make a person a moron? Or for that matter, how does it also infer the status of moron on one who reads it?? Sorry, but I just don't see where the connection is made mate!?!

 

it is the way it is worded you are being very forward for someone who cant be bothered to get off there arse to meet someone face to face .

 

ie:

 

With this in mind, I feel that I can be of assistance to you, should you offer me permission to shoot for pests/vermin on your land. If you grant me permission to shoot on your land, I would respectfully ask that it be in written form. I have enclosed a permission letter that can be filled in for this

 

i think that is the only part of the letter is a bit over the top ,

 

tell you what fella if you wasnt so far away i would say send me the names and address of the 50 people you sent letters too and i will take up a challange and see how many i get for permission and put this letter writing to bed but it will never happen but i think i would walk away with more .

[Grim Reaper 1]

Firstly BigRedBusa, don't feel i was having a pop/go at you, because i wasn't at all - i was just after a bit of clarification. I just wanted to make that clear mate

 

as you can see i think a face to face is the done thing , farmers / landowners just dont have the time to read letters and get in touch lol

Yeah, i agree with you all the way - all but 5 of my letters were produced in person whilst talking to them, like. The first 5 i sent off were my first ever venture in this field, and now since having gained experience and confidence, i have chosen the personal path ever since - no posting letters for me.

 

but if you are the shy type maybe a letter is for you but i know who the farmer would give permission to

Yes, ok maybe at first try i was a tad shy, but not now!

 

 

Secondly, how does writing a letter make a person a moron? Or for that matter, how does it also infer the status of moron on one who reads it?? Sorry, but I just don't see where the connection is made mate!?!

 

it is the way it is worded you are being very forward for someone who cant be bothered to get off there arse to meet someone face to face .

It's not that i can't be bothered to 'get off my arse'and meet them face to face - i DO just this exact thing. What I do is talk to them in person, face to face (or whatever term you prefer), and simply give them my letter so that they can take it home and read it when they like - sort of as a backup statement if you like?ie:

 

 

 

 

So, to summarise my method:

I go in person and approach them, then i talk to them, and if they want time to think about it i give them my

letter to refer to, and then we part company. Otherwise, if they opt to give me permission there and then i give them the permission form. But I do approach them in person first - that is without reproach.

 

 

All the best,

Grim

Edited July 18, 2008 by Grim Reaper

[PhilS 0]

I know what it's like mate! Local permission is a bugger round here, we've got plenty of permissions about a 10-15 minute drive away, but there's loads of land lifting with rabbits on my doorstep that we can't get on. Bloody bunny huggers!

 

You want to see egham, colnbrook, virginia water, chertsey, even on the way into staines! ...heaving with rabbits, plenty of space! I'm off for a long walk tomorrow to see who I can bump into. fingers crossed!

 

Phil.

[SEAN3513 7]

good luck phil .....hope somthing turns up.!!!

 

all the best

 

sean

[rabbit_killer 2]

And by the way, I have got one positive reply from posting these 'geeky' letters

 

well done for getting 'one'

 

as you can see i think a face to face is the done thing , farmers / landowners just dont have the time to read letters and get in touch lol

 

but if you are the shy type maybe a letter is for you but i know who the farmer would give permission to

 

 

REMEMBER the first one is really important , try a church and explain about rabbits digging under headstones etc..

 

Secondly, how does writing a letter make a person a moron? Or for that matter, how does it also infer the status of moron on one who reads it?? Sorry, but I just don't see where the connection is made mate!?!

 

it is the way it is worded you are being very forward for someone who cant be bothered to get off there arse to meet someone face to face .

 

ie:

 

With this in mind, I feel that I can be of assistance to you, should you offer me permission to shoot for pests/vermin on your land. If you grant me permission to shoot on your land, I would respectfully ask that it be in written form. I have enclosed a permission letter that can be filled in for this

 

i think that is the only part of the letter is a bit over the top ,

 

tell you what fella if you wasnt so far away i would say send me the names and address of the 50 people you sent letters too and i will take up a challange and see how many i get for permission and put this letter writing to bed but it will never happen but i think i would walk away with more .

 

 

 

 

yeah you are probly right about the face to face bit it has got me all of my permishion so far but like i said in the first place its just a time factor for me.

 

and also like i said it cost me a few hours going through the net and the yellow pages got 50 address and pressed print cost me £30 in stamps and envelopes

if i get one more permission its cost me £30 happy days if i dont ive lost £30 no big deal to a man of my caliber lol

[rabbit_killer 2]

By the way, i was down your way (Essex) yesterday on a job - a place by the name of South Ockenden?

 

[AHEM] If you ever feel the need for some company at the cemetary . . . . .

 

 

Regards,

Grim

 

thats about 20mins from me ish

 

im going to see the old girl sataday to have a look round and get her to sign my permishion

 

then ill see what its all about loads of woods all round and fields the more i think about it i think it will be good!!

 

 

when i get my feet under the table your more than welcome to pop over for an evning of bunnie bashing

[Grim Reaper 1]

thats about 20mins from me ish

 

im going to see the old girl sataday to have a look round and get her to sign my permishion

 

then ill see what its all about loads of woods all round and fields the more i think about it i think it will be good!!

 

 

when i get my feet under the table your more than welcome to pop over for an evning of bunnie bashing

 

 

Cool that its not too far from you - i now know how to get to that area! lol

 

I would be more than happy if I were able to pop along with you one day mate, but just as happy if it don't come about bud.

 

Regards,

Grim

[PhilS 0]

Update:

 

Well after even more efforts and knock backs I have decided to my efforts to find permission is bloody futile. I cant get a good response for love nor money!

 

I have even contacted the locals looking for a place where I can turn up, pay them some cash, and go practice in a field with my targets..... no f**king luck!!!!

 

Now even considering selling my setup.

 

A totally irritated....

 

Phil.