Seeking permission

[PhilS 0]

I am based in Surrey. Have been searching for vermin permissions for quite some time now.

 

So far I've....

 

1) Wrote letters to several local farmers (no replies)

2) Approached farmers in person (the refusal here is mostly that they enjoy the pest control / taken care of)

3) Left a message in a shop window. (no replies)

4) Posted ads where possible online (no replies)

 

I have also approached a few syndicates who mostly seem to be interested in the shotgun / organised shoot side of things... am I missing some?

 

Any ideas? Is it honestly this hard starting out for everyone?

 

Its feeling a bit like

 

I have web site design / development / pc fixing skills to offer as a sweetner but I'm not sure how much success I could have offering these.

 

Thanks,

Phil.

Edited July 15, 2008 by PhilS

[pikey2983 2]

have you tryed any golf course round near you mate and old quarrys?

[SEAN3513 7]

paitience....................it may take you a long time to get a yes!!!

 

but when you get one it will probably lead to more.

 

dont give up.....keep trying.

 

good things come to those who wait!!!

 

good luck

 

sean

[big al 0]

paitience....................it may take you a long time to get a yes!!!

 

but when you get one it will probably lead to more.

 

dont give up.....keep trying.

 

good things come to those who wait!!!

 

good luck

 

sean

Sean your right the first bit of land is hardist,farmers seem to like to know you,and trust you,when they see what you can offer them they are more inclined to pass your name on to the next chap.

Most of my permission has come this way,if you just keep to rabbits and pigeon shooting you will be safest when you ask i think,also a lot of farmers have no ideal at all about how effective air rifles for pest control can be. GOOD LUCK AL

[Coney 3]

Just keep at it mate it will pay off in the end.

[undisputed 1,664]

I am based in Surrey. Have been searching for vermin permissions for quite some time now.

 

So far I've....

 

1) Wrote letters to several local farmers (no replies)

2) Approached farmers in person (the refusal here is mostly that they enjoy the pest control / taken care of)

3) Left a message in a shop window. (no replies)

4) Posted ads where possible online (no replies)

 

I have also approached a few syndicates who mostly seem to be interested in the shotgun / organised shoot side of things... am I missing some?

 

Any ideas? Is it honestly this hard starting out for everyone?

 

Its feeling a bit like

 

I have web site design / development / pc fixing skills to offer as a sweetner but I'm not sure how much success I could have offering these.

 

Thanks,

Phil.

 

I've always found asking for ferreting permission to start with is a good way in...after a few weeks or months as you get to know your host you can enquire about things like shooting etc....like the guys said dont give up all you need is one yes...good luck!

[gandalf 0]

I am based in Surrey. Have been searching for vermin permissions for quite some time now.

 

So far I've....

 

1) Wrote letters to several local farmers (no replies)

2) Approached farmers in person (the refusal here is mostly that they enjoy the pest control / taken care of)

3) Left a message in a shop window. (no replies)

4) Posted ads where possible online (no replies)

 

I have also approached a few syndicates who mostly seem to be interested in the shotgun / organised shoot side of things... am I missing some?

 

Any ideas? Is it honestly this hard starting out for everyone?

 

Its feeling a bit like

 

I have web site design / development / pc fixing skills to offer as a sweetner but I'm not sure how much success I could have offering these.

 

Thanks,

Phil.

hi there

next time your sitting in the house doing nothing try getting out the yellow pages farmers section(obviously)and mark all the farms that you would be willing to travel to then go back to the first one and ring it up and go through them all i guarentee you will get at least one that says yes thats how i got one of my permissions and now i do his neighbours as well.usualy they like to put a face to the voice but you will get one that asks you to come along and have a look just be polite on the phone tell him what you want to shoot(rabbits,wood pigeon)and tell him what your going to use to do it.good luck let me know how you get on

[richie 1]

i agree with undisputed

 

its much easier to get permission by offering your services by ferreting first, then when their comfortable with you, & can see you can be trusted & reliable you can ask if you could use an air rifle on certain areas where it wouldnt be suitable to ferret.

 

just keep trying, but dont expect permission to be given from a hunting site..

 

look on www.yell.com & look up all the farmers in your area & contact them in person "face to face".

 

good luck in your search.

 

rich

[Rentomski 0]

I really feel for you blokes down South; getting permission sounds an absolute nightmare. Best of luck and keep trying!

[woodchip 2]

i agree with undisputed

 

its much easier to get permission by offering your services by ferreting first, then when their comfortable with you, & can see you can be trusted & reliable you can ask if you could use an air rifle on certain areas where it wouldnt be suitable to ferret.

 

just keep trying, but dont expect permission to be given from a hunting site..

 

look on www.yell.com & look up all the farmers in your area & contact them in person "face to face".

 

good luck in your search.

 

rich

 

i agree 100% .pheasant season isnt that far away see if there are any local shoots and ask if they need beaters thats a way of getting to know the farmer/gamekeeper and a good way to see how if any pests they have

[diggermad 154]

hi mate do what i did just tell a little lie go to the land owner or phone him and tell him you was walking with your dog which is ie terrier dont mention lurcher at the moment and your dog got hold of a few rats pending whereit is maybe a ditch or brook or if he has sheep your terrier brought a fox down near his land and was just wondering if he has any trouble with such vermin then move on from there it worked for me hope i have helped cheers

[davyt63 1,845]

hi phil

not one of the other posts mentioned to tell them you have insurance .ask around your mates or work colleagues this is what i done keep writing the letters put a stamped address envelope with a copy of your insurance in it , also try business parks, rugby clubs, football clubs ,hotels ,golf course. all these i have i didn't get a quick response

more declines than offers till they realise they have a problem keep at it buddy .check out grimreaper he has some letters you might want to use they worked for me

regards

 

davy

[Grim Reaper 1]

hi phil

not one of the other posts mentioned to tell them you have insurance .ask around your mates or work colleagues this is what i done keep writing the letters put a stamped address envelope with a copy of your insurance in it , also try business parks, rugby clubs, football clubs ,hotels ,golf course. all these i have i didn't get a quick response

more declines than offers till they realise they have a problem keep at it buddy . Check out Grim Reaper he has some letters you might want to use they worked for meregards

 

davy

 

Hehe . . . . talk of the Devil . . . . .and he's sure to appear!! LMAO

 

Glad to see thats the case Davy - very pleased for you I am too!!

 

I composed them to help us all out, so EVERYONE - please feel free to copy & paste them into MS Word or simillar. Only condition attached is that if you do use them, then please let us know on here how things pan out for you?

 

All the best,

Grim

Edited July 16, 2008 by Grim Reaper

[rabbit_killer 2]

just keep trying mate it will happen

 

i have 300acres of soon to be golf course

and another golf corse which im sure is over 300 acres

 

i did post my moded letters on grims post but ill post em here for ya aswell i have modifide 3 letters and these seem to be working for me with the permishion letters aswell, im sending another 50 letters off in the morning!!

 

RE: Pest/vermin control

 

Dear Sir or Madam:

 

First of all, I would like to take this chance to thank you for taking the time to read my letter. I am writing to enquire whether there is any opportunity for pest control on your land free of charge.

 

My name is ……………… I am …. years old, married with …..children and live in …………... I have been shooting silenced air rifles for … years now and enjoy the hobby very much, along with the added bonus of helping the farmer/land owner by controlling pests/vermin such as rooks, crows, rabbits, rats and squirrels Ect.

 

With this in mind, I feel that I can be of assistance to you, should you offer me permission to shoot for pests/vermin on your land. If you grant me permission to shoot on your land, I would respectfully ask that it be in written form. I have enclosed a permission letter that can be filled in for this

 

All livestock, property, borders and boundaries will be respected. I have a serious outlook and respect when using silenced air rifles and I believe the following points illustrate this well -

 

• I NEVER take chances when shooting – safety of others and myself is

always of the utmost importance to me, which is why I will undertake to

arrange with you in advance when and where I can shoot.

 

• I ALWAYS respect the wishes of the landowner and obey any rules or

restrictions he/she may lay down.

 

•I am a fully insured member of B.A.S.C. and

always carry my membership I.D. card and proof of shooting insurance with

me whenever I go out on a shoot. I can produce it to you if required.

 

Please do not hesitate to contact me if you require any more information. Or you would like to meet me to arrange pest/vermin control

telephone: …………….

 

Once again, many thanks.

 

 

Yours sincerely,

 

………………….

 

addresse………………………………………..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Grant of permission to shoot for pest & vermin control on private land

The Landowner/agent/tenant - …………………………… address: ………………………………………………

Land Address: ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

 

The Shooter – Mr…………………………………… Address:

……………………………………………………………………………………

 

The Landowner/agent/tenant hereby gives permission for The Shooter to control by silenced air rifle pest species covered by the Wildlife & Countryside Act 1981, Schedule 11, Section 1 relating to the Pest Species Act of 1954 & Ground Game Act of 1880. Specifically: Rabbits, Magpies, Crows & Grey Squirrels Ect. Until such a time that the permission is withdrawn. If the land is suitable ferrets and long net may also be used.

 

The boundaries for this activity Will been agreed in advance with The Landowner/agent/tenant and The Shooter is confined to those areas.

 

The Shooter named is granted permission to shoot and any changes will be by prior agreement with The Landowner.

 

When deemed necessary, The Shooter may recruit licensed B.A.S.C / Game Keepers Association members (maximum of 3) to assist with the pest control. The Shooter is responsible at all times for the actions of those assisting whilst they are on land and property

In return for the granting of this permission, The Shooter will respect at all times the land, buildings and materials there on.

 

The Shooter will behave in a safe and responsible manner at all times and respect the wishes of The Landowner.

 

Disclaimer

 

The Landowner takes no responsibility for the actions of The Shooter.

 

Any illegal acts committed by The Shooter on The Landowner’s land whether they result in prosecution or not, will mean that all shooting permission is immediately forfeited.

The Shooter will endeavor to comply with all legal obligations regarding the use of silenced air rifle, and / or nets. The Landowner accepts no responsibility for any non-compliance with current legislation.

 

The Shooter will carry appropriate, adequate and up to date third party indemnity for his activities. The Landowner will have no insurance liability in respect of shooting activities and any consequential events arising from such shooting activities as carried out by The Shooter.

 

The undersigned Shooter has the undersigned Landowner’s permission to shoot the Landowner’s property.

 

 

Signed: ………………………… (Landowner) Date: ……………

 

 

Signed: ………………………… (Shooter) Date: ……………

[Guest bigredbusa]

get out there and do face to face , letters are just a waste of time and can make you look like a moron who thinks the farmer too is a moron ie the geeky letter above , no offence but it's the sort of thing a 14 year old would use .

 

try for crappy bits of land aswell as even the smallest amount of land then lands you with a name to use ie: i do a bit for mr smith next door and noticed coney going into your land etc ...