mews/weatherings?

[thurso jack 3]

im planning building some new mews/weathering in the next week or so and im looking for insparation and whats best, it will be housing a parent reared gos.

 

It will have to be pest and pet proof so security is an issue.

thanks in advance.

 

TJ

[Rentomski 0]

I hope you aren't getting a Gos as a first bird?

[thurso jack 3]

I hope you aren't getting a Gos as a first bird?

 

i sure am mate, i have though been flying my mates/mentors bird with him for the past 3 season and HH,s just dont float my boat, given the choice of starting out with a harris or nothing it would be the later, i run a lurcher and have taken hundereds of rabbits they just dont float my boat.

 

I am part of a small syndicate who put down 500 phessies each year and have 3 flight ponds and live in an area overrun with rabbits so quarry isnt a problem/issue, myself and my mentor are also putting down 100 partdrige.

 

I have an idea of what i would want my mews and weathering to look like but i would like to see others before i commit to building, can you help with the origonal question?

 

thanks TJ

[Rentomski 0]

I certainly can help with your original question, but I sincerely would advise you not to get a Gos as a first bird. They are temperamental, very highly strung, easy to lose and not something to be taken lightly. For myself, I would love to have a Gos, but I would have to get rid of all my other birds to do justice to a Gos. A HH might not have the speed of a Gos, but it does have intelligence, sociability and the ability to work as part of a team. Goshawks are off the fist missiles; nice if you can handle them properly but a lot of trouble if you can't. Get a Harris'/Redtail first and learn to work with the bird and not against it, as you would find with a Gos.

[thurso jack 3]

I certainly can help with your original question, but I sincerely would advise you not to get a Gos as a first bird. They are temperamental, very highly strung, easy to lose and not something to be taken lightly. For myself, I would love to have a Gos, but I would have to get rid of all my other birds to do justice to a Gos. A HH might not have the speed of a Gos, but it does have intelligence, sociability and the ability to work as part of a team. Goshawks are off the fist missiles; nice if you can handle them properly but a lot of trouble if you can't. Get a Harris'/Redtail first and learn to work with the bird and not against it, as you would find with a Gos.

 

 

i hear what you are saying mate, but my heart is not in a HH or a redtail, so i dont think it would be fair on the bird, i have some good mentors to call upon and i am willing to put a lot of time and effort into the bird, its not a decision i have taken lightly or come to quickly, but to get the best out of a gos you need to fly it regulary and have game to fly it at, i am willing and have both, i really dont want to get into a debate about it on a public forum but needless to say i have discussed it thouroughly with a lot of experianced falconers.

[Rentomski 0]

A Gos is not and never will be suitable for a beginner.

[ayrshiretaxidermy 29]

A Gos is not and never will be suitable for a beginner.

 

 

Rubbish. If he has had a solid grounding with bop, and has a mentor/advisor close to hand, then there is no reason whatsoever that his first bird shouldnt be a Gos. Mine was, a male, imprinted by myself. Its not difficult if you do it right.

[thurso jack 3]

Are you getting an eyass Gos? Also will it be a male or female and will it be a finish or european or 50/50? Has your mentor flew a Gos before?

 

Sorry for asking lots of questions and I am not trying to pick faults I am trying to help as I can see you are going

a head and getting a Gos.

 

Having land and quarry will be a great benifit an eyass Gos immensly but it will not make it, that will be down to you. Time is just as important as the land and quarry. Put a lot of time in and listen to the mentor who has trained and successfully hunted a Gos on quarry. Dont be afraid of asking questions and getting in touch if you need advise. Goshawks are easily ruined and they usually stay that way lol so be careful.

 

Take your time and remember that Goshawks are not as forgiving as a Harris Hawk or other BOP. If you cannot get hold of your mentor, I will try and help out if I can.

 

Her is a picture of one of my Mews that I house an eyass. It has a screen perch, some people do not advocate them, however, I love them. It is on the same height as myself so when I walk in the Gos is not intimidated by me looking sown on it. The mews itself has only a small window that is blacked out with fine mesh. As the bird gets steadier the mesh is removed. The picture shows that the Gos has more than enough room and cannot hit anything and cause feather damage. The bird in the pic is now comming up for her 3rd season, and each season she has been on a screen. Good luck and dont forget to pm me if you need any help.

 

Cheers Joe

 

 

 

Hi joe, the bird is this years young P/R, tiercal, finn/german, both mentors experianced in longwings/broadwings and shortwings, no need to be sorry, i appreaciate your input

 

Thankyou for your advice and input, what i was looking to build is a mews with a screen perch like yours and have a flight come weathering attached, my reason being i want it totally secure, i have 3 russells and a lurcher and whilst they are kenelled accidents happen so i want a totally secure enclosure, id like to have a bow perch or elevated ring perch inside the flight for during the day and moult.

 

I will incorporate a barred window into the mews but understand this will have to be covered during manning etc, what im looking for is specific goss housing as i want to get it right first go and not have to change things when its too late.

 

what would you all say is the ideal size for a goss? space isnt a huge issue but im sure the missus would have something to say should i build a mews you could park an artic lorry in

 

again thanks for th input, ill hold you to the offer of advice in the future, no matter if its dogs or birds you are always learning!!

[thurso jack 3]

Aslong as you have a good lad behing you i can not see it being a problem..

Just make sure you have plenty of time on your hand's in the winter month's..as far as day time hunting goes.. ..

Millet

 

hi millet, i am pretty flexible with work hours, i work for my old man and can make up the hours to suit.

[Rentomski 0]

Rubbish. If he has had a solid grounding with bop, and has a mentor/advisor close to hand, then there is no reason whatsoever that his first bird shouldnt be a Gos. Mine was, a male, imprinted by myself. Its not difficult if you do it right.

 

For a person in that position, then I would not term them a beginner!

[craftycarper 0]

seems like a no win situation mate, i've read endless threads on the IFF site of people slagging off others for wanting to ditch their HH after a season or two to go for a Gos or something different. Unfortunately some of us are not in the position to have one or two of each. You are hardly a newbie if you have flown them for a couple of years with others and have people at hand to help you out. The only thing of concern is like the HH, say the Gos don't float your boat? then whats gonna happen....

[thurso jack 3]

seems like a no win situation mate, i've read endless threads on the IFF site of people slagging off others for wanting to ditch their HH after a season or two to go for a Gos or something different. Unfortunately some of us are not in the position to have one or two of each. You are hardly a newbie if you have flown them for a couple of years with others and have people at hand to help you out. The only thing of concern is like the HH, say the Gos don't float your boat? then whats gonna happen....

 

The only reason a HH doesnt "float my boat" is due to there main quarry being rabbit, as i said ive seen thousands of rabbits taken with a lurcher and my main interest is featherd quarry, hence why i am opting for a Gos, im wanting to fly it at featherd game.

[mickteesside 1]

sorry but got to disagree with that statement about harrises main quarry are rabbit harris will take most things i had a female that would take rabbit phezzie hare crows , she even took a wood pigeon and wood cock so got to disagree the bird will only hunt what you teach it 2 hunt

[Sighthound 49]

seems like a no win situation mate, i've read endless threads on the IFF site of people slagging off others for wanting to ditch their HH after a season or two to go for a Gos or something different. Unfortunately some of us are not in the position to have one or two of each. You are hardly a newbie if you have flown them for a couple of years with others and have people at hand to help you out. The only thing of concern is like the HH, say the Gos don't float your boat? then whats gonna happen....

 

The only reason a HH doesnt "float my boat" is due to there main quarry being rabbit, as i said ive seen thousands of rabbits taken with a lurcher and my main interest is featherd quarry, hence why i am opting for a Gos, im wanting to fly it at featherd game.

 

 

Don't agree with this at all. IMHO a MHH will give you a wider quarry range that any other BOP. True they won't 'catch' in the style of a gos on pheasant etc but they will certainly catch feather.

 

Any way here is mine built three years ago 12ft X 10ft - 9 ft high

[craftycarper 0]

thats looks like a nice set up...