17 hmr v`s 22lr

[Country Life 0]

I have been using 22lr for some time now, I am always reading you guys harp on about the 17 hmr..Is it really as good as you all say it is?

Or is it the old story in air gun hunting world,,, .177 v`s .22.

I`m thinking it is, yes it does have a flatter trajectory compared with the 22lr, but the 22lr has less of a problem with wind.

Oh and the 17hmr is double the cost of the best 22lr round.

Is it a case of swing and roundabouts.. I’d love to know before I send away £30 for a variation.

[Guest JohnGalway]

It is swings and roundabouts as you say. I like both but I have a .22lr. HMR has longer legs than the .22lr but it's more expensive and louder, although I do consider it safer than the .22lr due to many many less ricochets. The problem is both have their place, I'd have both if I could justify it to the local law

 

Pros are a much flatter trajectory, longer legs, safer.

 

Cons, more expensive, louder (though moderated it does seem to confuse quarry more than spook them).

 

I haven't done enough range work to comment on HMR and wind really. But, I've shot a lot of crows, magpies and rabbits with both. If you're able to get into .22lr range of your quarry easy enough then I would wonder why change? If you're hunting more open spaces with more wary quarry then it may be a good move.

 

Clear as mud sin't it

[jamie g 17]

it is more dear to run then 22lr but like john has said if need and want the extra range then go for it.

the hmr is a very accurate caliber and for bunny control over open ground its the best imo.

 

yes it is louder then 22lr but rabbits dont seam to no where the noise is coming from and alot of the time you can shoot one and then his friend next to him its also good if you come across the od fox when out

 

keep the range down some say to 100 yards but i would stick to yards and go for the head shot between the eye and ear and he will go down like a bag of crap

 

i have both 22lr and hmr both have a use if you can find a use for both go for it.

[Guest JohnGalway]

yes it is louder then 22lr but rabbits dont seam to no where the noise is coming from and alot of the time you can shoot one and then his friend next to him

 

Done this, got three out of a group of four at 60 yards, they weren't a bit bothered. Fourth rabbit was a young one so I let him scuttle off home.

[jamie g 17]

yes it is louder then 22lr but rabbits dont seam to no where the noise is coming from and alot of the time you can shoot one and then his friend next to him

 

Done this, got three out of a group of four at 60 yards, they weren't a bit bothered. Fourth rabbit was a young one so I let him scuttle off home.

 

 

i have had two at 125 yards next to each other i got it on film to. the other one just sat there

[Country Life 0]

Thanks for your advice.

 

I do see your point for longer shots, and my game are very wary, the first glance of a human and they’re gone....FOR HOURS...so i guess a 17hmr would be better..HHMM

 

But do I have to ask plod to check over the land.

I have use of 22lr and the shot gun on all my shoots, but the farmer’s don’t like to have plod pestering them.

For an instance. One farmer has a problem with dear and foxes on his land, I told him I would have to ask plod for permission to use cnt fire and inform DEFRA of my intensions and ask them for licence. This phased him and replied, " No don’t bother".

In fact most of the farmers shy away when these bodies get involved

Edited July 13, 2008 by Country Life

[IanB 0]

I have been using 22lr for some time now, I am always reading you guys harp on about the 17 hmr..Is it really as good as you all say it is?

Or is it the old story in air gun hunting world,,, .177 v`s .22.

I`m thinking it is, yes it does have a flatter trajectory compared with the 22lr, but the 22lr has less of a problem with wind.

Oh and the 17hmr is double the cost of the best 22lr round.

Is it a case of swing and roundabouts.. I’d love to know before I send away £30 for a variation.

 

Given the choice of .22 or .17hmr I'd personally go for .22 all day, there a great little round cheap to use and deadly quiet. I always grab the .22 over the hmr.

[jamie g 17]

Thanks for your advice.

 

I do see your point for longer shots, and my game are very wary, the first glance of a human and they’re gone....FOR HOURS...so i guess a 17hmr would be better..HHMM

 

But do I have to ask plod to check over the land.

I have use of 22lr and the shot gun on all my shoots, but the farmer’s don’t like to have plod pestering them.

For an instance. One farmer has a problem with dear and foxes on his land, I told him I would have to ask plod for permission to use cnt fire and inform DEFRA of my intensions and ask them for licence. This phased him and replied, " No don’t bother".

In fact most of the farmers shy away when these bodies get involved

 

if its passed for rimfire then the hmr should be passed. i would ask you firearms department the land could be passed for bigger caliber rifles allready if it is and your paying the money for hmr to go on ticket put in for centrefire at same time it wont cost any extra.

Edited July 13, 2008 by jamie g

[Country Life 0]

As it happens I have provision on my ticket for;

22lr Rifle x2

22lr mod.

223 Rifle.

223 mod.

308 rifle.

Given the new laws isn’t it a that I can’t just use the 223 for small deer and vermin control as the land is not on the register and the farmers don’t want to be bothered with the politics.. Sorry I’m digressing a little.

[jamie g 17]

As it happens I have provision on my ticket for;

22lr Rifle x2

22lr mod.

223 Rifle.

223 mod.

308 rifle.

Given the new laws isn’t it a that I can’t just use the 223 for small deer and vermin control as the land is not on the register and the farmers don’t want to be bothered with the politics.. Sorry I’m digressing a little.

 

ask for open ticket

[rizzini 1]

What is an open ticket?

[rizzini 1]

22lr vs 17hmr

 

[jamie g 17]

What is an open ticket?

 

open ticet is when the land doensnt have to be passed mate. in other words as long as you have permission to shoot the ground you can use your riles there with out it being checked by the police. its left to you to think weather its safe or not.

 

as long as you have the said '' rifles for that purpose ie vermn control. you couldnt take the 308 target rifle there shooting if you havent got it down for vermin or deer on your ticket

[rizzini 1]

I have 1500 acres to shoot pigeons on but it is 2 hour drive so It wont be my everyday piece of land.

 

How to I gte an open ticket? Is it easy to get?

 

 

Thanks,

 

rizzini

[Deker 3,478]

I have 1500 acres to shoot pigeons on but it is 2 hour drive so It wont be my everyday piece of land.

 

How to I gte an open ticket? Is it easy to get?

 

 

Thanks,

 

rizzini

 

You get an Open Certificate by demonstrating, ability, knowledge, safety, consideration, consistancy, maturity, history and anything else that helps!

 

The odds of you getting an Open Certificate on your first grant are remote to say the least (although it has been known)...and what happened to the other 500 acres ..it was 2000 yesterday not 1500???