NIGHTSHADOW 3 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Don't want to get involved in politics but with all these stabbings going on i'ts not going to be long before the Government intervenes with legislation against carrying knives. Are you worried about any possible effect it may have on us Country folk? I am. For instance we drive a horse & carry a knife in case of an accident & we need to get the harness off. As an example of the current situation I was pulled over one night when coursing & had to explain my knife but I got away with it because I had a reasonable explanation. If in furture I can't carry a knife full stop and I got pulled over, then I could have a big problem. It's a worrying thought. Anyone got any opinion or views on this? NS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullterrier Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 if am going ferreting or seafishing i just put the knife with my gearbeing in a city dont want to take any chances.. ..john Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Don't want to get involved in politics but with all these stabbings going on i'ts not going to be long beforethe Government intervenes with legislation against carrying knives. Are you worried about any possible effect it may have on us Country folk? I am. For instance we drive a horse & carry a knife in case of an accident & we need to get the harness off. As an example of the current situation I was pulled over one night when coursing & had to explain my knife but I got away with it because I had a reasonable explanation. If in furture I can't carry a knife full stop and I got pulled over, then I could have a big problem. It's a worrying thought. Anyone got any opinion or views on this? NS The laws a bit different up here but I think as long as you have a reasonable excuse you should be ok...think theres something about the size of the knife as well. So as long as you dont have one of those Rambo fuckers strapped to your leg you should be ok...best to err on the side of caution though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 I have carried a knife since i was a teen.Never been stopped dunno how it would stand if i got searched.Probally get charged allbecause of these neds/chavs are not man enough to stand their ground and trade blows.Little oxygen thiefs lot of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Common sense would say that if you need a knife, you can carry one. You need one in the field. Fine, reasonable excuse. You need one for work. Fine, reasonable excuse. You're wearing a Burberry baseball cap and carrying a 12" kitchen knife, in an urban area? You should be punished. Especially for wearing the cap. I can see a society that will criminalise the carrying of knives and also a society where only criminals will carry them. Bit like banning handguns, to stop gun crime, straight after the Soviet Union collapsed, because we all know that there is no gun crime in the UK, any more. I've carried a pocket knife since I was in the cubs. I've never ever, felt the desire to stab anyone with it. It's a tool to do a job. If it's against the law to carry one, I'll have to stop carrying one because I'm a law abiding citizen. The British government has shown decades of the inability to use common sense. Expect changes in the law that will impede your lawful activity and do absolutely nothing to stop knife crime. All too familiar from Labour and their apologists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Common sense would say that if you need a knife, you can carry one. You need one in the field. Fine, reasonable excuse. You need one for work. Fine, reasonable excuse. You're wearing a Burberry baseball cap and carrying a 12" kitchen knife, in an urban area? You should be punished. Especially for wearing the cap. I can see a society that will criminalise the carrying of knives and also a society where only criminals will carry them. Bit like banning handguns, to stop gun crime, straight after the Soviet Union collapsed, because we all know that there is no gun crime in the UK, any more. I've carried a pocket knife since I was in the cubs. I've never ever, felt the desire to stab anyone with it. It's a tool to do a job. If it's against the law to carry one, I'll have to stop carrying one because I'm a law abiding citizen. The British government has shown decades of the inability to use common sense. Expect changes in the law that will impede your lawful activity and do absolutely nothing to stop knife crime. All too familiar from Labour and their apologists. You're wearing a Burberry baseball cap and carrying a 12" kitchen knife, in an urban area? You should be punished. Especially for wearing the cap. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NIGHTSHADOW 3 Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Good points Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Coney 3 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Common sense would say that if you need a knife, you can carry one. You need one in the field. Fine, reasonable excuse. You need one for work. Fine, reasonable excuse. You're wearing a Burberry baseball cap and carrying a 12" kitchen knife, in an urban area? You should be punished. Especially for wearing the cap. I can see a society that will criminalise the carrying of knives and also a society where only criminals will carry them. Bit like banning handguns, to stop gun crime, straight after the Soviet Union collapsed, because we all know that there is no gun crime in the UK, any more. I've carried a pocket knife since I was in the cubs. I've never ever, felt the desire to stab anyone with it. It's a tool to do a job. If it's against the law to carry one, I'll have to stop carrying one because I'm a law abiding citizen. The British government has shown decades of the inability to use common sense. Expect changes in the law that will impede your lawful activity and do absolutely nothing to stop knife crime. All too familiar from Labour and their apologists. Well said... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,821 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Common sense would say that if you need a knife, you can carry one. You need one in the field. Fine, reasonable excuse. You need one for work. Fine, reasonable excuse. You're wearing a Burberry baseball cap and carrying a 12" kitchen knife, in an urban area? You should be punished. Especially for wearing the cap. I can see a society that will criminalise the carrying of knives and also a society where only criminals will carry them. Bit like banning handguns, to stop gun crime, straight after the Soviet Union collapsed, because we all know that there is no gun crime in the UK, any more. I've carried a pocket knife since I was in the cubs. I've never ever, felt the desire to stab anyone with it. It's a tool to do a job. If it's against the law to carry one, I'll have to stop carrying one because I'm a law abiding citizen. The British government has shown decades of the inability to use common sense. Expect changes in the law that will impede your lawful activity and do absolutely nothing to stop knife crime. All too familiar from Labour and their apologists. Well said... To paraphrase several ©Rappers: Knives don't kill people, people do! When I've been out hunting/shooting/fishing I've gone into shops and pubs carrying "a blade", never thought about stabbing anyone, makes you wonder where it will ll end. Knife licences? Jeez. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,629 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Common sense would say that if you need a knife, you can carry one. You need one in the field. Fine, reasonable excuse. You need one for work. Fine, reasonable excuse. You're wearing a Burberry baseball cap and carrying a 12" kitchen knife, in an urban area? You should be punished. Especially for wearing the cap. I can see a society that will criminalise the carrying of knives and also a society where only criminals will carry them. Bit like banning handguns, to stop gun crime, straight after the Soviet Union collapsed, because we all know that there is no gun crime in the UK, any more. I've carried a pocket knife since I was in the cubs. I've never ever, felt the desire to stab anyone with it. It's a tool to do a job. If it's against the law to carry one, I'll have to stop carrying one because I'm a law abiding citizen. The British government has shown decades of the inability to use common sense. Expect changes in the law that will impede your lawful activity and do absolutely nothing to stop knife crime. All too familiar from Labour and their apologists. Well said... To paraphrase several ©Rappers: Knives don't kill people, people do! When I've been out hunting/shooting/fishing I've gone into shops and pubs carrying "a blade", never thought about stabbing anyone, makes you wonder where it will ll end. Knife licences? Jeez. In a country where a blow-pipe needs an FAC many a true word is said in jest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paddy.t 5 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 I think it will be worse for us younger ones been a teenager myself. if pc plod decides to stop and search me when im off out ferreting or whatever, finds my knife whats he gonna do... listen to my reason for carrying it Or arrest me and get lots of credit for taking a 'knife weilding drug dealing gang-member teenager' off the street. I know what hes gonna do. Paddy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sikastag_1 689 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 to be honest i only carry a knife now if im going stalking so i dont think i would have a problem, but i think the laws will tighten, but they cant tighten much more really because if your out for rabbits and you gut them in the field then thats a reasonable explanation or whatever quarry is done in the field then you need a knife full stop, the only animal i do in the field is a deer so i only take a knife then but i dont think much will be said if you have a reasonable excuse. When i was working as a gamekeeper though i carried 1 with me at all times because you dont really know how much you need a knife doing things until you dont carry 1 so i think it will be people in this job that will effect most as most gamekeepers i know and have worked with carry a knife at all times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NIGHTSHADOW 3 Posted July 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I think it will be worse for us younger ones been a teenager myself. if pc plod decides to stop and search me when im off out ferreting or whatever, finds my knife whats he gonna do... listen to my reason for carrying it Or arrest me and get lots of credit for taking a 'knife weilding drug dealing gang-member teenager' off the street. I know what hes gonna do. Paddy You have hit my point right on the nail, I am not that young but I do FEAR thing will change for us folk for the worst ,We alway get dragged it to it some how Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob reynolds uk 3 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 only pricks cowards and wannabes use knifes on people ,they arnt hard but scared ..im all for the law clamping down on the knobs ..iv used knifes all my life but never on people ..any body carrying a stanley knife or a knife thats looks like some thing out of a rambo film on a night out or in a public place ect needs locking up unless its part of there job like out hunting or being used on any type of job ..there really no need to carry a knife over 5 1/2" but saying all that why not just bring the law down hard on the feckers who have used one on people simple really you then have the person off the streets who has used one its theses people who need locking up for a very long time in fact throw the fecking key away i say ,any fecker comes at me with a knife will get it shoved up there fecking arse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NIGHTSHADOW 3 Posted July 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 only pricks cowards and wannabes use knifes on people ,they arnt hard but scared ..im all for the law clamping down on the knobs ..iv used knifes all my life but never on people ..any body carrying a stanley knife or a knife thats looks like some thing out of a rambo film on a night out or in a public place ect needs locking up unless its part of there job like out hunting or being used on any type of job ..there really no need to carry a knife over 5 1/2" but saying all that why not just bring the law down hard on the feckers who have used one on people simple really you then have the person off the streets who has used one its theses people who need locking up for a very long time in fact throw the fecking key away i say ,any fecker comes at me with a knife will get it shoved up there fecking arse 100 % agree Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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