Out of season lamping

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  ooty said:

Fu*k you farmers make me laugh.you get more money for nothing with your set aside and hedgerows headland sceams,etc and are a bigger scurge on the tax payer than all the people on benifits in the country put together,there wouldnt be a countryside if you lot wernt PAID to own it. the 70s proved that when you ploughed all the hedgrows out that had been there for hundreds of years and made east anglia into one big corn feild.then drew millions off the government to put them back and maintain them .how meny 1000s of pounds are the massize john deer tractors and fast tracks?,the brand new four wheel drives your fat wives go shopping in etc? all written off agianst the tax you hardly seem ever to have to pay! yet you moan bout a few rabbits eating a bit of grass,its more common knowage these days that your taught to repeat yourselves as spoilt kids to say "oh us poor farmers or there aint no money in farming"you dont no what hard times means and most of you shouldnt be allowed to own or be responsable for the countryside as your only intrest in it is money.i wont be asking your permision to hunt YOUR lands for my food agian this year,

Good man. Good luck.You dont need to wedge youre tong up a farmers arse to get work for youre dogs.Where I have permission ive got because they like me and i them not because they have a hold over me and anyway those that withhold permission are usually in bed when im out and stuck in a tractor or office during the day. Im not a poacher i never have been because i only hunt wild animals not pheasants etc and i do it for fun.

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Edited July 15, 2008 by CHALKWARREN

[Guest ooty]

how do you keep that whippet fat?,some of the big estates we used to go had 2 to 300 rabbits running in off some of the feilds.i hated haveing to kill what must of been up to 3000 rabbits in a day on the big jobs.

[IanB 0]

Now if were talking rabbits only here, this time of year their population explodes, personally I'll control them with any legal means possible.... We have land for a reason to control vermin, my top two being rabbit and rats... now foxes this time of year, personally I won't touch, unless asked to by a farmer, then I have no problem, deer well bucks are in season.. Hares to be honest, I don't really touch them much, I prefer to save them for some of the lads off the sites lurchers to flush come the season, but on some farms I shoot, the farmers will have hare drives to get the numbers down to reasonable levels....

 

But one things for sure, using dogs is sporting, but its no way the best means of control, you will educate them to easy... If your wanting to put a dent into the area snaring,netting and night shooting/lamping/nv are the best means...

[countrymaid 2]

  threbb said:

  countrymaid said:

My partner reckons its 15 rabbits to one cow and him and his dad reckon due to the mild weather we have here in the the south hams there is no actual breeding season for rabbits anymore. Its seems the rabbits are at it all year now.

Well if thats what the men have told you it must be right mustnt it.

I dont know ive asked you lot on here what the figure is but know one has come up with it, It would seem from the way some people on here talk they shouldent be let loose with dogs.

[countrymaid 2]

we are just decent honest people trying to earn a living from our land

[TOMO 26,963]

i dont think cymag was removed because of it being oderless as its not. open the tin and its smells a bit like almonds.

 

if i remember right it was becuse sorex didn't want to re-liecence it . all poisons ect have to keep getting re regestered this somtimes becomes more trouble than its worth , and also it costs thousands and thousands, this has to be out weighed agianst the profit from the poduct.

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Edited September 17, 2008 by CHALKWARREN

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  IanB said:

Now if were talking rabbits only here, this time of year their population explodes, personally I'll control them with any legal means possible.... We have land for a reason to control vermin, my top two being rabbit and rats... now foxes this time of year, personally I won't touch, unless asked to by a farmer, then I have no problem, deer well bucks are in season.. Hares to be honest, I don't really touch them much, I prefer to save them for some of the lads off the sites lurchers to flush come the season, but on some farms I shoot, the farmers will have hare drives to get the numbers down to reasonable levels....

 

But one things for sure, using dogs is sporting, but its no way the best means of control, you will educate them to easy... If your wanting to put a dent into the area snaring,netting and night shooting/lamping/nv are the best means...

They dont have Hare drives in summer though do they.

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

  TOMO said:

i dont think cymag was removed because of it being oderless as its not. open the tin and its smells a bit like almonds.

 

if i remember right it was becuse sorex didn't want to re-liecence it . all poisons ect have to keep getting re regestered this somtimes becomes more trouble than its worth , and also it costs thousands and thousands, this has to be out weighed agianst the profit from the poduct.

 

You are correct there TOMO...

 

I don't think cost was the only reason why Sorex decided to let CYMAG go,..it was more to do with all the hassle as regards, Storage, Transportation,.H&S,.etc,.

They just couldn't be arsed with it all..

 

However,.I have heard that someone else might be thinking of giving it a try in the future...

Edited July 16, 2008 by CHALKWARREN

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  IanB said:

Now if were talking rabbits only here, this time of year their population explodes, personally I'll control them with any legal means possible.... We have land for a reason to control vermin, my top two being rabbit and rats... now foxes this time of year, personally I won't touch, unless asked to by a farmer, then I have no problem, deer well bucks are in season.. Hares to be honest, I don't really touch them much, I prefer to save them for some of the lads off the sites lurchers to flush come the season, but on some farms I shoot, the farmers will have hare drives to get the numbers down to reasonable levels....

 

But one things for sure, using dogs is sporting, but its no way the best means of control, you will educate them to easy... If your wanting to put a dent into the area snaring,netting and night shooting/lamping/nv are the best means...

Have you read the thread?

[LDR 29]

  threbb said:

  IanB said:

Now if were talking rabbits only here, this time of year their population explodes, personally I'll control them with any legal means possible.... We have land for a reason to control vermin, my top two being rabbit and rats... now foxes this time of year, personally I won't touch, unless asked to by a farmer, then I have no problem, deer well bucks are in season.. Hares to be honest, I don't really touch them much, I prefer to save them for some of the lads off the sites lurchers to flush come the season, but on some farms I shoot, the farmers will have hare drives to get the numbers down to reasonable levels....

 

But one things for sure, using dogs is sporting, but its no way the best means of control, you will educate them to easy... If your wanting to put a dent into the area snaring,netting and night shooting/lamping/nv are the best means...

They dont have Hare drives in summer though do they.

 

 

 

Knit picking now!!!!

 

Get real will ya......some of the permission people have are required to go on it all year round, the farmers see a pregnant or milky doe killed, as 6 less to feed when fully grown, glad you have so many offers of permission that you can afford to turn them down, they're few and far between for us to do the same.......... but we have some places that want us to do some quarry and not others, what should we say to that, sorry but we kill everything on site!!!

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  countrymaid said:

we are just decent honest people trying to earn a living from our land

I know a lot of farmers and get on well with them.Has you say they are just trying to make a living,but my whole point in the beginning was not about control but about people who think they are hunting legitamate quarry that they can bragg about on this sight when actually a real sporting man would rather wait until his quarry has either matured or finished rearing its family and has become fit and streetwise before going out to try and take it.What would you think of say THE WATERLOO CUP BEING HELD IN JUNE? Somehow I think it would have lost its prestige.

[threbb 0]

  longdogrunner said:

  threbb said:

  IanB said:

Now if were talking rabbits only here, this time of year their population explodes, personally I'll control them with any legal means possible.... We have land for a reason to control vermin, my top two being rabbit and rats... now foxes this time of year, personally I won't touch, unless asked to by a farmer, then I have no problem, deer well bucks are in season.. Hares to be honest, I don't really touch them much, I prefer to save them for some of the lads off the sites lurchers to flush come the season, but on some farms I shoot, the farmers will have hare drives to get the numbers down to reasonable levels....

 

But one things for sure, using dogs is sporting, but its no way the best means of control, you will educate them to easy... If your wanting to put a dent into the area snaring,netting and night shooting/lamping/nv are the best means...

They dont have Hare drives in summer though do they.

 

 

 

Knit picking now!!!!

 

Get real will ya......some of the permission people have are required to go on it all year round, the farmers see a pregnant or milky doe killed, as 6 less to feed when fully grown, glad you have so many offers of permission that you can afford to turn them down, they're few and far between for us to do the same.......... but we have some places that want us to do some quarry and not others, what should we say to that, sorry but we kill everything on site!!!

WHAT DOES THAT LAST BIT MEAN? IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE.

[LDR 29]

  threbb said:

  longdogrunner said:

  threbb said:

  IanB said:

Now if were talking rabbits only here, this time of year their population explodes, personally I'll control them with any legal means possible.... We have land for a reason to control vermin, my top two being rabbit and rats... now foxes this time of year, personally I won't touch, unless asked to by a farmer, then I have no problem, deer well bucks are in season.. Hares to be honest, I don't really touch them much, I prefer to save them for some of the lads off the sites lurchers to flush come the season, but on some farms I shoot, the farmers will have hare drives to get the numbers down to reasonable levels....

 

But one things for sure, using dogs is sporting, but its no way the best means of control, you will educate them to easy... If your wanting to put a dent into the area snaring,netting and night shooting/lamping/nv are the best means...

They dont have Hare drives in summer though do they.

 

 

 

Knit picking now!!!!

 

Get real will ya......some of the permission people have are required to go on it all year round, the farmers see a pregnant or milky doe killed, as 6 less to feed when fully grown, glad you have so many offers of permission that you can afford to turn them down, they're few and far between for us to do the same.......... but we have some places that want us to do some quarry and not others, what should we say to that, sorry but we kill everything on site!!!

WHAT DOES THAT LAST BIT MEAN? IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE.

 

 

What dont make sense???