stormrider8 59 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 A first cross is a first cross! no matter how its bred, pure to pure or first cross to first cross. Doesnt matter what it looks like.. Ive seen plenty run and they have all been useless, on small ground.. thats why i started the topic!! Now i know you open your mouth before u think.. Why would you need to add one runnin dog to another.. maybe because one aint such a good ruuner in the first place.. mate you talk utter shite your saying a saluki isn't a good running dog i can't believe what i'm hearing it's been around thousand's of year's doing just that and are still doing it and will still be doing it long after bull xs and that's a fact what out of fox,deer,hare and rabbit do you think a bull x is better on tha a saluki x if you was to go up and down the country lamping and coursing with 1 dog slip's ??? Listen mate.. Im not sayin a saluki cant run at all, far from it. But what i am sayin is that i disagree with your statement that a first cross has no speed.. That is utter shite.. Where i run there are only small fields, the bull cross has a far more explosive take off and are ideal dogs for this area.. Quote Link to post
spep21 0 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I am from Devon aswell and have seen a couple of saluki dogs and they haven't been any good down here. Nobody really works them down here like they do in other parts of the country or that is what I have found to be true so that must tell you something in itself. Quote Link to post
doga 50 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 haveing seeing more dogs than most and hunting al over the usa etc the saluki cross is more versatile for me better feet more running sense , and the tor of dartmooor genuine half crosses were more than spunky enough to catch foxes without encouragment , the bull cross i would give an early grave as they are to heavy muscled for feild after feild driveing stubbles coursing flushing hares on hard stubbles , but i still think and eighht wouldnt do any harm im lucky my collie line is game so dont need bull in them , but if i losst my line of colli type i would maybe have a quart bull but would study them first as wind and feet pace, is a must localy, and good hunting sense as its not all one way traffic and you need hunting sense for running all sortsof quarry cheers some truth in that but thats my opinion,i now this isnt enything to do with this thread so give me a pm please on your collie line interested.thanks. Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,958 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 A first cross is a first cross! no matter how its bred, pure to pure or first cross to first cross. Doesnt matter what it looks like.. Ive seen plenty run and they have all been useless, on small ground.. thats why i started the topic!! Now i know you open your mouth before u think.. Why would you need to add one runnin dog to another.. maybe because one aint such a good ruuner in the first place.. mate you talk utter shite your saying a saluki isn't a good running dog i can't believe what i'm hearing it's been around thousand's of year's doing just that and are still doing it and will still be doing it long after bull xs and that's a fact what out of fox,deer,hare and rabbit do you think a bull x is better on tha a saluki x if you was to go up and down the country lamping and coursing with 1 dog slip's ??? Listen mate.. Im not sayin a saluki cant run at all, far from it. But what i am sayin is that i disagree with your statement that a first cross has no speed.. That is utter shite.. Where i run there are only small fields, the bull cross has a far more explosive take off and are ideal dogs for this area.. that may be mate but if you read through this topic the people who are running both say the saluki just as something xtra the bull x on fox i have seen it with my own eye's can catch the odd one by there self but alot need doubling up when there by there self the fox turn's to sharp for them and when running there turn of speed after a couple of run's is shite could you lamp for 5 hour's catching all night then start coursing when it get's light and still be catching with a bull x Quote Link to post
gavmac 0 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 (edited) Edited July 16, 2008 by gavmac Quote Link to post
sean.t 0 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 bit of both i would say looks a handy sort, how is he bred? does he retrieve hares? he is only 14 months so has only done a few rabbits, maybe 30 odd. he is bull/grey x saluki/whippet/grey. nothin better than a pitbull greyhound in my opinion Quote Link to post
dai dog 11 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 nither of them are an alrounder,!!! got to agree how many bull x men and saluki men use them for going out ferreting or the smaller game with success and how many bull x bring their game back to hand without it being crunched ie a rabbit mine! the white & brindle one, time after time, all the way in, no ribs broken. Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 A first cross is a first cross! no matter how its bred, pure to pure or first cross to first cross. Doesnt matter what it looks like.. Ive seen plenty run and they have all been useless, on small ground.. thats why i started the topic!! Now i know you open your mouth before u think.. Why would you need to add one runnin dog to another.. maybe because one aint such a good ruuner in the first place.. mate you talk utter shite your saying a saluki isn't a good running dog i can't believe what i'm hearing it's been around thousand's of year's doing just that and are still doing it and will still be doing it long after bull xs and that's a fact what out of fox,deer,hare and rabbit do you think a bull x is better on tha a saluki x if you was to go up and down the country lamping and coursing with 1 dog slip's ??? Listen mate.. Im not sayin a saluki cant run at all, far from it. But what i am sayin is that i disagree with your statement that a first cross has no speed.. That is utter shite.. Where i run there are only small fields, the bull cross has a far more explosive take off and are ideal dogs for this area.. that may be mate but if you read through this topic the people who are running both say the saluki just as something xtra the bull x on fox i have seen it with my own eye's can catch the odd one by there self but alot need doubling up when there by there self the fox turn's to sharp for them and when running there turn of speed after a couple of run's is shite could you lamp for 5 hour's catching all night then start coursing when it get's light and still be catching with a bull x What and that makes it an all rounder.. Not in my eyes im sorry mate. Everyones knows they have wind.. Im talking lampin, ferreting, long nettin ,retreiving recall obedience, jumping marking diggin bushing, etc. All the other things you would expect from an all round dog. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 im being serouis mate any time you want to see obeident saluk crosses come up to gods country mines ferret lamp course , there pretty handy tools in the [bANNED TEXT] hands Quote Link to post
brock 11 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 seen plenty of both breeds work,and it basically depends on the dog itself,good and bad in both,i havent seen a dog crossed out of both but from what im hearing are making very handy animals,might put a bull x across my saluki x this year and find out for myself Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 im being serouis mate any time you want to see obeident saluk crosses come up to gods country mines ferret lamp course , there pretty handy tools in the [bANNED TEXT] hands Good on you.. Why straight to the point about obiediance? Got to admit i would love to see a good one work, especialy on a big open field.. cheers Quote Link to post
chester 147 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 this bitch rabbits live to hand without the ribs crunched not all bulls are hard mouthed on rabbits. all other game was stone dead. Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 this bitch rabbits live to hand without the ribs crunched not all bulls are hard mouthed on rabbits. all other game was stone dead. Nice.. Also have a young bull cross, only caught a few but has never been hard mouthed yet!! Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,180 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 "haveing seeing more dogs than most" "the bull cross i would give an early grave as they are to heavy muscled" "i would maybe have a quart bull but would study them first" ????????????????????? Quote Link to post
Guest WILF Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 There is no "right" awnser to this question........its a bit like asking how long is a bit of string. Quote Link to post
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