lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I used to carry a lock blade knife years ago, as the neigbourhood I grew up in was rife with muggings, gangs, drugs, rapes etc. I never felt comfortable with it because I'd rather someone didn't get close enough for me to stick 'em with it. A couple of years back I did a bit of kick boxing and it gave me loads of confidence, but I still don't think I could use it to properly defend myself. I hadn't really thought much about the need to protect myself when I'm out until recently. I thought to myself the other day ... I wonder if I'm the only one creeping about out here? It was dusk, and very quiet .... and I was having a wee Fairly compromising moment to say the least, with the dogs galloping around about a half mile away. My old dog Griff would've died to protect me, but neither of these two are really capable when I think about it. My theory was put to the test a few weeks back, in my own home Neither of them got up off their beds and it was a fairly serious assault. Now that you mention it SJ, I'm sure I saw a telescopic walking stick in, of all places, Tesco about 6 months ago. If anyone comes across any I'd like to know. Think it'd be a worthy investment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SJM Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Am I reading this right that someone seriously assaulted you in your own home? You OK? I feel the same as you do regarding carrying knives You have to be pretty close to use one and plus stabbing is just not my "thing", too much blood too much evidence, if you can clobber someone and leave them lying where they fall if you get them right, theres more of a chance you will get away with it than if your covered in their blood or you accidentally cut yourself with the knife in the frenzy and leave your blood at the scene Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tattooed 3 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 If someone was coming at me I would rather be able to stop them before they get within my personal space, by bashing them anywhere I could reach with some kind of lengthy object, than wait until they are close enough for me to have to slap or punch them? but I guess the self defence thing would be good to do have to look into that one , I did attend some martial arts classes a few years ago and enjoyed them, but then when we got quite good at the routines, the guy wanted us all to do this thing on stage in front of an audience and I said no, I am not paying my money every week to learn this to be entertainment for others, I want to learn it for myself and me alone, this ended up in an argument with the instructor cos he said we all had to do it before we could go on to the next level so I told him to stick his karate up his ass and that was the end of that carry a heavy chain dog lead...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Am I reading this right that someone seriously assaulted you in your own home? You OK? I feel the same as you do regarding carrying knives You have to be pretty close to use one and plus stabbing is just not my "thing", too much blood too much evidence, if you can clobber someone and leave them lying where they fall if you get them right, theres more of a chance you will get away with it than if your covered in their blood or you accidentally cut yourself with the knife in the frenzy and leave your blood at the scene Ya I'm ok, but I very nearly wasn't ... Blimey SJ it does sound as though you've put a bit of though into this ... and that you've been watching CSI One of my leads is a Pet Touch lead, bought it at the pound shop, and it's got a big heavy spring on it that's meant to absorb the shock of a dog pulling (ya, ok ). I bought it because it's a nice short lead and that's what I prefer. I reckon if I swung that at someone's head it would do a bit of damage Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ballybricken 1 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Kubaton is somewhat same as a knife as you'd have to get in pretty close there only about 6 inches long, that said they'd do the job no doubt plus im sure there a kubaton courses available around the UK, maybe something worth looking into. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) It's a fecking terrible thing that a woman cannot feel safe in the British countryside... Edited July 10, 2008 by CHALKWARREN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 SJM listen to me as i know a little about this subject .... kubatons, asps, knives, sticks, dog leads etc etc etc are all close quarter weapons and unless you are trained to use them they are just about useless to you ... the point is to keep your assailant at a safe distance not allow him to get close enough where he can harm you or remove your intended protective weapon and use it against you .... look take a knife for example .. some nutter wants to drag you into a bush and dry bumb you ... you pull out knife try to use it nutter takes it off you and thinks f**k this she might recognise me ... in for a penny in a for a pound and uses the weapon you carried for protection against you ... same as a dog lead ... tie you up strangle you .... pepper spray or gel as tomo mentioned or a tazer ... keep them at a safe distance and incapacitate them long enough for you to feck off ... what copper is going to stop you in the middle of nowhere and ask to search you incase you are carrying pepper spray ??? ... however i still maintain the 100% best protection is a well trained personel protection dog ............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,638 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 very good advise there from socks. we also used a stun gun in spain, and best of all was a cattle prod, fook that was great Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,334 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 very good advise there from socks. we also used a stun gun in spain, and best of all was a cattle prod, fook that was great I have been zapped myself with a stun-gun and pepper sprayed,both incapacitated me for a time,you can pick them both up cheap just popping over to france or online,you can actually bring the stun-guns over in kit-form and assemble them yourself But of the two I would rather my wife were carrying a pepper-spray if something kicked off,and DONT do as I have seen several times advance upon your assailant as your spraying it OR with the wind blowing in your face Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Lin Russell and her 6 year old daughter Megan,all they were doing was walking there dog exellent point & the other daughter Josie is doing brilliantly she was on telly a few weeks ago & is pretty amazing I dont give a toss what the law sayes my dog wouldnt protect me if i were attacked out alone or even followed with the intention to just be robbed rather than a sexually motivated attack , so mace or something else to hopefully blind the wanker , then a swift kick in the bollocks to bring the tosser to his knees . sorted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,334 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Put it into context Kay,if you mace,gas,zap or even stab him he isnt going to ring 999 and complain that a dog-walking lady he wanted to drag into the woods,sodomise,beat,rape,torture and eventually batter or strangle to death,turned the tables on him and did him an injury,forget the law,look how ineffectual they are,if its a one-on-one do what you have to do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Put it into context Kay,if you mace,gas,zap or even stab him he isnt going to ring 999 and complain that a dog-walking lady he wanted to drag into the woods,sodomise,beat,rape,torture and eventually batter or strangle to death,turned the tables on him and did him an injury,forget the law,look how ineffectual they are,if its a one-on-one do what you have to do well theres no way i could fend off a bloke physically , so a quick squirt of mace may just be enough to enable me run away quick , i think you just have to be mindfull where you go i tend to stick to main roads rather than going off up bridal paths alone , so preventing it happening is probably better than having to do something if humanly possible if your ever in that situation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,334 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 As you say,prevention is always better than cure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kye 77 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I would have to agree with Socks,.. Ive been to many, and instructed "Self-Defense" things, and in all honesty 99% of them are shit...exspecting a 120lbs woman, to do throws/grapple/strikes/holds on men that can out weigh them, and are more aggresive is just for hollywood...you can take the best martial artist woman in the world and in a REAL combat situastion, most average joe's of the street will wipe the floor with them...even top MMA Pro women fighters can/have been slaughtered in sparring at Gyms and Dojos, buy guys who have been training for less than two weeks...ive seen it. I would deffo go for the Spray,...you are unlikly to get searched anyway, if your just 'walking the dog'....if you see the cops coming, just discreatly drop the can somewhere...you can always go back and get it....i know that you can get the Spray, then get the 'cover' from another can and put that over it aswell, to try and camo it up...lets just hope the cop is not in need of some 'hair-spray'..lol. If a woman is attacked, or is even thinking she may be attacked, the best thing to do is start shouting!...i mean screaming the f*****g house down, like crazy...top of your voice sort of stuff. If you cant/wont use the spray, and an attack is imminent, and you have your dog with you, just pretending to 'sic' your dog on the would-be-attacker, can cause enough distracion...long enough for you to get to a well lighted area, the car, knock on a door, anything.... If the worst comes happens, and the guy gets you, you need to fight like an animal...buy that, i dont mean "Drunken monkey, Iron clawed Crane" sort of stuff...i mean like a bobcat with fecking rabies...."Attack until the threat is removed/neutralized"....if i was a woman, and i got attacked buy a man, the first thing i would try for is a eye gouge, or clawing at the face...this will do a couple of things... If you stretch your fingers out and make a 'clawing' type of motion with your hand, try and start at the attackers hair line, and claw the c**ts face apart...as soon as you feel anything soft and sqishy, dig your nails in...it will be his eyes, or another sensitive part...dont for get to be screaming the whole time. This can stop an attack real quick, blinding the guy for a while, hopefully for life...but IF he does do a runner, he will be more noticable buy the public/police (scratch marks) and you will also have his DNA under your nails!...if the Cops take that DNA, and have a suspect, if its the guy, he's f****d... Key targets for woman Vs men type of combat are eyes, and some people say the groin...i would agree that the groin shot is a good one...IF LANDED!...kicking means one, NOT both feet on the ground, and that makes you unstable, and more likly to get taken down, and your attacker can then get a dominant postion...and do what ever he likes to you...not good. I would also carry a Pen...any kind...but a strong fountain pen or summat like that...stabbed into the eyes/mouth/neck/groin will take the fight outta most guys...even used in a 'slashing' motion, across the face it will open him up a TREAT!...also if you can get a metal comb, or hair brush...take a few teeth outta the comb..summat like one in every 4-5 should do it...you basicly have a serrated knife, just minus the point...but these are more LAST RESORT sort of things...no matter how strong you think you are, or how tough, when that adrenalin kicks in, you will get tired quick, and it will feel almost 'dream-like'...thats what combat is like!... People worry about HIV, AIDS and the like and are put off of biteing...yeah, its not nice, but would you rather bite someone, or get raped/killed/mugged?...if your on the ground, on your back, and the guy is on top of you (most common in rape etc) if he has hair, grab a hand full, at the back of his head and yank it violenty to the side, facing him to look to the side...this will present you with the cheek, ear...just bite the f*****g thing...dont bite like a jack russell, bite like a bull dog...you dont have to try and chew his face off...just bite and hold...try and make your teeth meet in the middle...with cheeks and ears, they usualy WILL!... Also, when i say eye gouge, i dont mean POKING the twat...i mean driving your fingers/thumbs upto the knuckles of your hand...bury them in his head...no one can take that. So, in brief!..lol. Keep your witts about you...if you think you are about to be attacked/are being attacked MAKE LOTS OF NOISE...if you have the spray, use it...if worst comes to the worse, face or groin...dont attack the body, waste of time for woman Vs men...leave that shit to boxers etc...fight like an animal defending your life..because you ARE!...no one has the right to invade your personal space, or to violate you in anyway...if you get taken to court, atleast you will be alive...to be honest, going to court would be the LAST of my worries!... It would be easier if you lived in america...i would just say "Shoot 'em!"..lol. Jay.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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