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When i was 11 i got interested in my dads shotguns, so to start me of he got me a bb air rifle so i could get the feel of holding a air rifle and shooting. then he could tell i was ready to try the big boys gun :whistling:

Tho you have to remember with the kick some shotguns have.

 

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I only checked today with BASC to check the legality of any of the younger teenagers in our family using any of my FAC rifles under close supervision.

 

They told me that not only does anybody who borrows any FAC firearm have to be seventeen or older but the lender of the rifle has to be the 'occupier' of the land on which it would be used. Apparently having the shooting rights or just 'permission to shoot' does not qualify you as the occupier.

 

Unfortunately this 'occupier' rule means that I can't legally let anyone shoot my rifles unless I do so on my own land (which isn't really suitable) where I am the occupier.

 

Are the rules different for shotgun use?

 

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To cloud this even further the BDS state on their website:

 

an "occupier" is taken to be a person with "any right to hunt shoot or take game" on land other than the foreshore

 

a written lease or permission is taken to give a "right" whereas a verbal agreement or invitation probably does not

 

So which is it guys?

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My eldest at 11 shoots at the local club with me. Has been for the last year. We regularly have the trap out at home go through the gun safety bit and all have a go,the other two are 7 1/2 and4 1/2. They use a 410 and 13" Rizzini 20.

The 410 requiring far more accuracy of course but they still manage too put me too shame. The eldest has always done pigeons with me or helped beating and this is a rights off passge that he waited years too happen. Guns are light as are loads,good ear and eye protection are essential. I find his gun safety and awareness better than those who come too it older. You have a few clubs near you I believe, let him have a go the sooner the better. All our shooting sporrts need as much support a it can get from all ages too. This is a SGC not a FAC you can hold a cert in the right circumstances at any age. And hes putting in for his now.

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To cloud this even further the BDS state on their website:

 

an "occupier" is taken to be a person with "any right to hunt shoot or take game" on land other than the foreshore

 

a written lease or permission is taken to give a "right" whereas a verbal agreement or invitation probably does not

 

So which is it guys?

There was something on here not long ago, on that subject. I think someone can use your guns, as long as you have written permission, & you are with them. They can't borrow a gun & go out by themselves with it.

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