BOLT RIGS FOR CARP

[mole catcher 1]

Ive been watching a set of underwater dvds on carp behaviour and the way our rigs effect them. It was a good set of dvd's made by Korda, you may know the ones im on about. It is hosted by Danny Fairbrass who, without a doubt sems to know his stuff as well as those on his team whilst filming the dvd's. There was however one thing he said that i thought very strange, and if im honest im not in agreement with so i thought i would ask you for your opinions on it. It was the following........

 

Quote ' I dont believe its the weight of the lead or the fish shaking its head that hooks the fish, i believe its when the bobin comes tight as the fish takes line that sets the hook' Unquote.

 

This to me seems very wrong, surely as the fish is running and taking line the line will be flowing through the bobbin clip and isnt held tight?

 

I was always of the opinion that when the fish takes the bait it either turns its head and sets the hook or feels somethings wrong and trys to eject the rig (hence the anti eject rig). Or as in the case of a bolt rig, snatches the bait and runs with the weight setting the hook.

 

What are your opinions of Danny Fairbrasses coment?

 

regards

MC

[trader 0]

Ive been watching a set of underwater dvds on carp behaviour and the way our rigs effect them. It was a good set of dvd's made by Korda, you may know the ones im on about. It is hosted by Danny Fairbrass who, without a doubt sems to know his stuff as well as those on his team whilst filming the dvd's. There was however one thing he said that i thought very strange, and if im honest im not in agreement with so i thought i would ask you for your opinions on it. It was the following........

 

Quote ' I dont believe its the weight of the lead or the fish shaking its head that hooks the fish, i believe its when the bobin comes tight as the fish takes line that sets the hook' Unquote.

 

This to me seems very wrong, surely as the fish is running and taking line the line will be flowing through the bobbin clip and isnt held tight?

 

I was always of the opinion that when the fish takes the bait it either turns its head and sets the hook or feels somethings wrong and trys to eject the rig (hence the anti eject rig). Or as in the case of a bolt rig, snatches the bait and runs with the weight setting the hook.

 

What are your opinions of Danny Fairbrasses coment?

 

regards

MC

no way is it the weight of the bobbin its the weight of the lead/feeder every time, thats why you should vary the lenght of your hook lenght as fish wise up and if it was the case of the bobbin hooking fish what about when you fish at 100 yards plus with mono the fish would have to swim 20 yards before it hooked it self on the bobbin weight. some times when its really windy i would backlead(flying) sink the rods tips and run straight off the alarm no bobbins and still catch you dont use bobbins for barble they pick up the bait move away and the weight of the feeder/lead pricks them and they bolt same as screamers from carp.. hows the river carp going mc

[AIRGUNNER 1]

Ive also thought about this MC and its resulted in me not fishing with in bobbins anymore, it also depends on the weight of the bobbins and the

distance your fishing at if its 10yards or 100yards (well thats what ive found anyway). When your out on the bank again try fishing with one

rod on the bobbin and the other without and see what results you get.

 

Is that the six series of korda underwater footage about the bobbins as theres a little on there about it.

Edited July 7, 2008 by AIRGUNNER

[mole catcher 1]

I was fishing last week at about 30yrds with 1oz leads. I was fishing with proper slack lines as in the line from rod tip was hanging slack, not tight. I did have light bobbins on but they were simply resting on the floor and only rose once a pick up had happened. Let me explain why i was fishing slack lines

 

I was fishing in 9ft of water and at about 30yrds. It is my opinion that with the water pressure being such on the line that was laying on the bed as soon as a pick up happened it would register on the line running through the bite alarm.

AND NOT AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE BY TAKING UP THE SLACK IN THE LINE FIRST. If all line were needed to be taken up first before a bite registered, wouldnt it not run true that when fishing from a beach at 150yrds with a bow adding a further 50yrds of line that to register a bite the fish would need to move at least 50yrds?

 

Ive fished this way for many years and found it works fine and there is no need for a tight line, something that i have heard spoken about many times by better anglers than myself. The only reason i use a bobbin is so when the line is moved by a run its the bobbin that holds the line over the indicatores running wheel.

[cooper90 0]

Yes i have to agree its the lead and the pricking action of the hook that gets a take.