BlueCoyote 0 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 (edited) dobermanns if trained right make brilliant guard dogs . I agree, Dobermans are my second fave. i've owned several in the past. i would have one now - instead of the bulldog - but my husband doesnt like them.. i managed to cure him of the bad press bulldogs have when he met my cousin's bulldog. but i dont know anyone with Dobermans anymore.... Edited July 1, 2008 by BlueCoyote Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted July 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 hang & bang - its not a case of NEEDING a guard dog, its just a want and a preference. Since the day i was born we've had a dog in the house. And i think if your gonna have a dog as a pet, it might as well double as a good family guard dog. I agree, dobermanns are tremendous guard dogs also. Best guard dog ive ever had. Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hang & bang 114 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 HOW ABOUT A DOG U CAN WORK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted July 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Then that wouldnt generally be a pet would it? Arent MOST working dogs exactly that? Working dogs which may also be good pets or house dogs? For my own circumstancies i would benefit more from a house dog which is a good guard. This would then be my companion when out in the field but not a working dog as such. Cheers Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hang & bang 114 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Then that wouldnt generally be a pet would it? Arent MOST working dogs exactly that? Working dogs which may also be good pets or house dogs? For my own circumstancies i would benefit more from a house dog which is a good guard. This would then be my companion when out in the field but not a working dog as such. Cheers Gaz WHATEVER SUITS YOUR NEEDS GOOD LOOK IN THE SEARCH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 dobermanns if trained right make brilliant guard dogs . What do you class as a guard dog, one that barks and looks the part? If so then i'm sure a lot of breeds would fit the bill as a good pet and "watchdog". I've trained a lot of manwork dogs and the have yet to meet a good manwork dobermann. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted July 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Well im not sure what others class as a good guard?? I say that mine is and yeh she barks when someones about, in the street or whatever. But if someone knocks at the door she trys to go through it. If i open the door and someone is standing there she barks in the face, growls, lunges, and they dont stand there for long! Lol. I am 100% she would bite if needed. Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Well im not sure what others class as a good guard?? I say that mine is and yeh she barks when someones about, in the street or whatever. But if someone knocks at the door she trys to go through it. If i open the door and someone is standing there she barks in the face, growls, lunges, and they dont stand there for long! Lol. I am 100% she would bite if needed. Gaz You see its horses for courses. I spent a lot of time training dogs to do it for real. I have one here now and when someone knocks on the door he doesn't bark, create or try to take the door of its hinges but observes. I also KNOW that this dog can do the job for real as I spent several years training it. He is calm, obedient, stable with people and animals and to me this is what a guard/protection dog should be, calm and sociable in todays climate, but thats just my perception. P.S. Many dogs will bite if "needed" and gievn enough stimulation, its what happens after that................ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted July 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 having read your last post i can respond better to your previous question... A guard dog to me is something which barks alot and looks the part. Even if my dobe wouldnt bite, then i dont think many people would hang around long enough to find out. Cheers Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Heres one of my old boy, hes nine now and I have a son of his who is ok, but not a patch on his sire. Shame dogs have to get old In this climate having a dog that looks the part is often safer.........until your broken into Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueCoyote 0 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Heres one of my old boy, hes nine now and I have a son of his who is ok, but not a patch on his sire. Shame dogs have to get old In this climate having a dog that looks the part is often safer.........until your broken into Oh My, Grandpa, what big teef you have! i've learned a dog that "looks the part" will usually turn tail and run the other direction when the threat persists. like what you said, a dog that watches to read a persons body language is the best one to have. thats great for going out in public, meeting people, or if you have a dog protecting your business. but i think it depends what you want personally. do you want to be the sort of person who doesnt WANT to meet people? want to keep the Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses away from your door? then you'd probably be better off with a dog thats all mouth. most people wont come near a dog that acting vicious. i like my bitch for the reasons you mentioned Simoman. she's calm, watchful, waits for you to show your spots. she's more intense if its just me and her. if my husband is around she's still watchful but not nearly as intense looking. the time she backed my aunt and uncle in a corner was when i was home alone and asleep. they didnt know we'd just gotten a new dog, and i didnt know they were coming to visit...... when they walked into the house without knocking (their usual thing) Kaydee wasnt having it! There have been several occasions where she could have bitten. in spite of me holding the other end of the leash, she's strong enough if she wants something she can get it. but she chooses not to drag me around. i've seen people with "trained" dogs that were waaaaay too intense. one of my dad's nieces got a pit bull for protection (her husband bought him for her so she would be safe when he was away on business) this dog didnt protect anything. he strutted around, growling all the time, tail in the air, ears cocked forward. any movement was cause for him to bite. she left this dog at my dads for a weekend so she could handle business elsewhere.... my dad went into his backyard as normal after work. this dog chased him into his house and nearly put his head through the door. that was it. my dad called her on the phone and said she had 12 hours to come get this mutt before he shot it. wasnt the first time the dog went ballistic either. he was a head case for sure. and you didnt dare take him out in public! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 want to keep the Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses away from your door? I'll invite anyone in for a chat, I'm very lonely in real life......................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ocs1867 Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Dobermans are to easy to brake imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Dobermans are to easy to brake imo. What do you mean? They are easy to brake? Easy to stop running at you? Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Gareth, I'm assuming he means if they feel pressured they will pack the game in and walk off. Which is true from the ones I have worked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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