earthdogs & working terriers

[Guest tuggy]

Wouldnt say Smithy was the best dog to work that Ken owned, black or white.He had some serious white digging dogs.Way back.

don some that people would`nt have even heard of - to name a couple prince ,stormer, tornado , thunder ,blizzard , vixen, - shall i carry on ..

have ypu personally dug to all those terriers

[DAVE P 100]

Well said Greggy.

[Guest SPIFF]

Just reading through some old Nuttal threads and i don t see many lads rushing to his rescue.Is it fear.Or is it hope of a chat with your idle?Or is it the hope of getting something for nothing?

 

IF BOTH WHERE TERRIERMEN [iN THE LOOSEST SENSE OF THE WORD,AS DOG DEALER AND TERRIERMAN DON T REALLY GO HAND IN HAND] AND BOTH SOLD ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF DOGS.

 

WHAT SEPARATES THESE 2 AND WHY ????????????

 

THERES LADS ABOUT NOW WHO HAVE DUG AND BEEN DIGGING FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY RE WELL KNOWN ,IN THEIR AREA,BUT NOT NATIONALLY ,THEY ARE THE LADS WHO I RESPECT,NOT IDOLISE.WHY?BECAUSE THEY HAVE NEVER USED THEIR DOGS TO LINE THEIR POCKETS.

 

GOOD POST JOHN D SOME FELLAS ARE BETTER TALKING THE DOGS UP THAN DIGGING DOWN TO THEM.

[donnyc 1,203]

No one forced anyone to buy off the two mentioned did they??.The time these two put into breeding workers and working them deserves some respect ..Christs sake how many blacks originate from the two mentioned? How many lines owe their existance to them as well .At their age they deserve to make a few bob.Quite a few people obsessed with lines and names on here going by the amount of questions bandied about. Think some ought to ease off the old weed ..

[Guest SPIFF]

AYE DON GOOD POINT"AT THEIR AGE THEY DESERVE TO MAKE A FEW BOB"?

 

AT WHOS EXPENSE?YOUNG LADS STARTING OUT?OR MAYBE FOR THE "GOOD OF THE WORKING TERRIER IN GENERAL

THERES POSTS ON HERE ,RIGHTFULLY DISCOURAGING FELLAS WHO BREED OF SPARSILY WORKED DOGS,TELL ME HOW MANY TIMES WOULD THESE FELLAS BE DIGGING TO A DOG OR A BITCH TO SEE IF IT HAS THE MINERALS TO BE BRED OFF?

IF IT WASN T FOR THE HIGH AMOUNTS OF MONEY THESE TERRIERS ARE BEING SOLD FOR PEOPLE WOULDN T BE BREEDING FOR ££££££

 

DON WOULD YOU BUY A PUP DIRECTLY OUT OF EITHER YARD FROM SPARSILY WORKED TERRIERS????OR WOULD YOU GO TO SOMEONE WHO WORKS DOGS CONSISTENTLY.GOD KNOWS ITS HARD ENOUGH AT TIMES TO TEST AND WORK DOGS NOWADAYS TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE NEVER MIND GOING TO A DEALER WHO HAS JUST BRED OF A YOUNG DOG OR BITCH WHICH HAS SEEN LITTLE IF ANYTHING.BUT MAY BE DOWN FROM A FAMOUS DOG WHICH LIVED 25 YEARS AGO???????

 

EDITED TO ADD WITH REF. TO A PREVIOUS POST BY B&t I CHANGED MY USER NAME TO BE IDENTIFIED NOT TO HIDE.

Edited July 30, 2008 by SPIFF

[donnyc 1,203]

good post SPIFF

Don C why you feel the need to back the DEALERS is it because you are one 2. I bet you have a kennel full of all types,,,,russels, Lakies,,,borders

Not backing dealers .Think you will find Nuttalls stuff is still tested and tested well ..Spiff or pip you should know that well as a lot are on your island Shane you are full of shite Ive kept all types well before you could hold a lead..Like your last comments about showing ..For every show ive shown any dog bar the festival of hunting for some years now Ill give you a tenner .hows that? Get your facts straight before you open it or is it you have been before me judging and you never got a rossette ..I dont hide behind a username no need to unlike you.. Dont think Ken sells much now although I hear he still puts some over the water.Nuttals stuff yes some are small for overseas but by all accounts they still graft .They BOTH still did a lot for the black uns Like I said a lot of todays lines started from them ..

[the_stig 6,614]

well done stig you earn the title of the number one authority on someone elses dogs names. it seems this topic has turned into who knows more about the big names and there dogs names,iv been to a few shows in the past and spoken to a few lads and all they seem to mention is have you heard of him or i know so and so,its the same on here its pretty funny really,all that matters at the end of the day (to me anyway)is how my dog works,dont get me wrong i do enjoy seeing other peoples dogs do well and hearing of famous dogs at their work but its not a competition as to who knows more about someone else dogs, get a grip lads.

i was repleying to someones post simple as - whos to say these whr someone elses dogs some of em i may have owned ..i could name many more just making the point that gould did have some good white digging dogs - - Edited July 30, 2008 by the_stig

[the_stig 6,614]

Wouldnt say Smithy was the best dog to work that Ken owned, black or white.He had some serious white digging dogs.Way back.

don some that people would`nt have even heard of - to name a couple prince ,stormer, tornado , thunder ,blizzard , vixen, - shall i carry on ..

have ypu personally dug to all those terriers

yes and many more ..

[the_stig 6,614]

POINTLESS on here as all the experts will come up with the usual.

yep you whr right not worth the hassle don .. Edited July 30, 2008 by the_stig

[Guest blackntan]

AYE DON GOOD POINT"AT THEIR AGE THEY DESERVE TO MAKE A FEW BOB"?

 

AT WHOS EXPENSE?YOUNG LADS STARTING OUT?OR MAYBE FOR THE "GOOD OF THE WORKING TERRIER IN GENERAL

THERES POSTS ON HERE ,RIGHTFULLY DISCOURAGING FELLAS WHO BREED OF SPARSILY WORKED DOGS,TELL ME HOW MANY TIMES WOULD THESE FELLAS BE DIGGING TO A DOG OR A BITCH TO SEE IF IT HAS THE MINERALS TO BE BRED OFF?

IF IT WASN T FOR THE HIGH AMOUNTS OF MONEY THESE TERRIERS ARE BEING SOLD FOR PEOPLE WOULDN T BE BREEDING FOR ££££££

 

DON WOULD YOU BUY A PUP DIRECTLY OUT OF EITHER YARD FROM SPARSILY WORKED TERRIERS????OR WOULD YOU GO TO SOMEONE WHO WORKS DOGS CONSISTENTLY.GOD KNOWS ITS HARD ENOUGH AT TIMES TO TEST AND WORK DOGS NOWADAYS TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE NEVER MIND GOING TO A DEALER WHO HAS JUST BRED OF A YOUNG DOG OR BITCH WHICH HAS SEEN LITTLE IF ANYTHING.BUT MAY BE DOWN FROM A FAMOUS DOG WHICH LIVED 25 YEARS AGO???????

 

EDITED TO ADD WITH REF. TO A PREVIOUS POST BY B&t I CHANGED MY USER NAME TO BE IDENTIFIED NOT TO HIDE.

SO SPIFF IS PIP, DONT CARE WHAT YOU CALL YOUR SELF, THE WORKING TERRIER HAS ENOUGH ENEMYS WITHOUT YOUR IFFY COMMENTS SPIFFY, DO I TAKE IT THAT IF ANY ONE DOES NOT AGREE WITH YOU VIEWS, YOU CHANGE YOUR NAME, YOUR GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF NAMES BY THE TIME YOU GROW UP. SO IN YOUR OPINION, THE HISTORY OF THE WORKING TERRIER. ALL THE BREEDING ,LINES, TYPE, ETC ,CARRY NO SUBSTANCE IN THE MODERN WORLD. ALL THE OLD NAMES WHO BRED AND CROSSED AND BROUGHT IN NEW BLOOD, OH AND BY THE WAY NOTHERE WAS NO EMAIL 30 YEARS AGO .AND WAY BACK WHEN THE REAL BREEDING TOOK PLACE NO MOTOWAYS OR AIR TRAVEL, SO WHY DID THE BREYS , BARKERS, DOBSONS, LONGS PARKIN, WYLD ,DO IT , TO IMPROVE THERE STOCK, SIMPLE AS THAT. FROM WALES TO CUMBRIA , THERE PATHS NEVER CROSSED BUT THRUE WORD OF MOUTH AND AT STOCK SALES OR COUNTRY SHOWS ,THEY SOLD TERRIERS AND SWAPED LINES LOVE THEM OR HATE THEM. IF IT WAS NOT FOR THESE MEN OH AND THERE WOMEN !WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE WORKING TERRIERS OF TO DAY , THE OLDER MEN OF TODAY AND I INCLUDE NUTTALL GOULD, HAVE MADE A BOB OR TWO, BUT ALL SO HAVE PAST ON THE WORKING GENE, SOME PEOPLE WILL NEVER BREED A LITTER OF TERRIERS SOME WILL BREED MANY, AS LONG AS THE WORKING GENE IS PAST ON ,AND YOUNG PEOPLE CARRY ON THIS SPORT ITS FINE BY ME, THIS FORUM IS FOR LIKE MINDED PEOLE TO DISCUS A SUBJECT THAT HAS NO WINNERS AND NO LOSES ITS JUST DISCUSION, WHY DONT YOU START UP THE PIPA PATTER FOUNDATION AND BREED TERRIERS GIVING THEM TO NEWCOMERS THUS ERADICATING THE PUPPY PEDDERLING NERDOWELLS THAT LURCK ABOUT AND TAKE ALL THESE PEOPLES HARD GOT MONEY, WHAT WOULD YOU USE TO BREED, AS LINES MEAN NOTHING. DOG A, X BITCH C FROM WHO KNOWS WERE , YOU RIGHTLY STATED THERE ARE MEN THROUGHOUT THE FELLS, HILLS, AND MOORS, OF ENGLAND, IRELAND, SCOTLAND, AND WALES. WHO HAVE, AND BREED SOME OUT STANDING TERRIERS. I HAVE MET AND HUNTED WITH MANY, WHOS NAMES WOULD MEAN NOWT BUT WHOS TERRIERS WOULD HOLD THERE OWN WITH THE BEST AND WOULD NOT THANK ME TO MENTION THERE NAMES ON THIS SITE, BUT IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE LIKES OF NUTTALL, ETC HOW WOULD MANY HAVE FIRST VENTURED INTO TERRIERS, YOUNG LADS ON ESTATES, HUNTING RATS WITH MUTS, THEN MEETING OTHERS WITH TERRIERS, ASK QESTIONS GET NAMES NOT THE UNKOWNS IN THE WILDS OF NOW WERE, BUT THE GOULDS THE NUTTALLS, THE POWERS , THEN GET THE BOOKS, THE FELL TERRRIER ETC. SO COME DOWN FROM YOU HIGH CHAIR PIP OR SPIFF, NOW ILL GIVE YOU A TOAST, LADS TO ALL THE OLD TERRIER MEN OF AW MAKS, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR ATHLETICS AND GAMES OF ALL SORTS BUT THIS HUNTING IS SURELY THE GREATEST OF SPORTS TALLY HO TALLY HO TALLY HO DIG DEEP AND THROW WELL BACK TALLY HO : Edited July 31, 2008 by blackntan

[Guest SPIFF]

APART FROM THE DOG DEALER MANTRA AND THE POOR SPELLING ,GOOD POST.

 

edited to add I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST BREAY WYLD OR ANY OTHERS MENTIONED JUST THE OBVIOUS USERS OF THESE MENS LINES FOR THEIR OWN FINANCIAL GAIN.

Edited July 31, 2008 by SPIFF

[Guest blackntan]

am dixluxic

[Guest blackntan]

APART FROM THE DOG DEALER MANTRA AND THE POOR SPELLING ,GOOD POST.

 

edited to add I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST BREAY WYLD OR ANY OTHERS MENTIONED JUST THE OBVIOUS USERS OF THESE MENS LINES FOR THEIR OWN FINANCIAL GAIN.

SPIFF WHATS YOU TERIERS BACK GROUND AND THIS IS NOT A TRICK QUESTION

[dastardlydeed 9]

would any of you care to post a photo of the dog Smithy? do you have photos of his sire or dam? i have no reason to ask other than curiosity. he must have been a hell of a barn burner in his day.

[Guest blackntan]

would any of you care to post a photo of the dog Smithy? do you have photos of his sire or dam? i have no reason to ask other than curiosity. he must have been a hell of a barn burner in his day.

IVE ONLY EVER SEEN TWO PHOTOS OF SMIFFY RAY SMITH MAY HAVE SOME