monkie75 1 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Hi all, only posted a couple items so would like some advice on a this! Just got my new Cz 527 (.22hornet) and chose 45gr winchester super x as my first bullets ( i'm fairly new to this and not yet into homeloading nor really have time toget into it!) Have researched a bit and spoken to a few few friends in the know and they reckon i ought to try one oif the lighter weight bullets i.e 35 gr ballistric tip. I can see from the ballistic tables that these fly flatter and have less velocity but has anybody any opinions! Ps want to use to thin out a few hares and foxes!! Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Hi all, only posted a couple items so would like some advice on a this! Just got my new Cz 527 (.22hornet) and chose 45gr winchester super x as my first bullets ( i'm fairly new to this and not yet into homeloading nor really have time toget into it!) Have researched a bit and spoken to a few few friends in the know and they reckon i ought to try one oif the lighter weight bullets i.e 35 gr ballistric tip. I can see from the ballistic tables that these fly flatter and have less velocity but has anybody any opinions! Ps want to use to thin out a few hares and foxes!! Sorry, but you asked ... Pretty obvious you are new to this....who saw you coming and sold you a Hornet! Quote Link to post
lgray88 4 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 i have absolutly nil experiece with a .22hornet but what exaclty is the problem with them ? Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 i have absolutly nil experiece with a .22hornet but what exaclty is the problem with them ? There is nothing inherently wrong with the Hornet, problem is it is a dying calibre, ammo is hard to find and not cheap and it falls in the middle of a lot of things, generally about 400-700ft lb, NOT legal for any deer and too powerful for rabbit and hare. So, putting it bluntly..an expensive waste of time today! Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Monkie; I have a NEF made .22 Hornet and always fired HP through it. Till I did some asking, on here, and decided to try the 35gr V Max ('Ballistic Tip'). I'll never look back! I shot a fox with HP at about 60+ yards. Engine room. He was dead before his chest touched the grass. Went down like the proverbial sack of. But the round exited through the other side of him. Then I set the cadaver up at 100 yards and head shot it with a V Max. The round stayed where it was put. And turned the entire skull to dish water inside the skin!!! That. to my mind, adds up to one Safe and Deadly round. I just hope ye don't hope to eat any hares ye hit with one :sick: Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Deker, Hornet is a waste of time for factory ammo I agree, but it's not too much for rabbit. Just need to shoot them in the head, a la 223. Problem with Hornet is simply that you can't get the factory ammo for it. If yuo could, at a sensible price, then it's a good calibre because it's quieter than 223, but gives you more range than any rimfire. The Hornady 35gr is the stuff to get - rapid expansion and a muzzle velocity of around the 3000-3100fps mark. So 200 yards without a second thought. However, I have never been able to find it. The short answer is this - if you want to shoot hornet, then you reload. Otherwise, 17HMR and 223 give you a much better combo - 17HMR for your long rabbits, and 223 for everything. Quote Link to post
Lewdan 17 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Hi Mate, i use a .22K hornet for foxes and longer range rabbits, and i have to say that its a great tool for the job Most of the ground i shoot over consists of farms averaging 200 acres, so i am never too far from the farm houses or neighbouring houses, and i think a moderated hornet in these circumstances is ideal (especially at night) much better than the big boomers if i want some rabbits to eat , then i take my .22 rim and get within about 60 yds or so to get a head shot,-- i don,t think any centre fire calibre is good for pan rabbits ( my opinion ). As for foxy, a 40 grain V MAX @ 2900 f/s will do him out to 200yds ( good distance on my ground ) and still make one hell of a mess on him:whistling: 200Yds is a good shot with any calibre.. as for cost,, factory ammo can be a little expensive but there again how many rounds will you use in a season?? if you go down the reloading road then the hornet becomes much cheaper because in uses half as much powder than a .223 and everything else is the same.. If you do some research on the hornet you will find that over the past years it has gained in popularity, due to the fact that new powders , & new bullet heads have been introduced that give greater speed and accuracy, add to the fact that the hornet has almost no recoil, and can be silenced quite effectively all this in my opinion makes it a great little calibre in the correct environment.. Stick with it mate, try to get hold of some 35grain hornaday v max you,l be amazed Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 But the biggest problem with Hornet is getting hold of the bloody stuff, it's rarer than a rare thing! And it ought to be cheap, it's a very good rabbit round. if the ammo were cheap it would kill HMR stone dead, a far more capable tool with similar ballistics but more energy. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Just been browsing a few sites and the Hornet ammo here caught my eye; http://essexgun.com/index2.html Hornet is normally sold in 50 round batches isnt it? In which case 50p a go is not overly expensive for a good fox round, bit pricey for bunnies though. Regards SS Quote Link to post
markbivvy 6 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 I have a cz hornet, reload for it with 40 grain sierra blitzkings, powder is h110. it does 3100 fps over the crono. its cheaper to reload for it than use my 17 hmr, it wellies charlie out to 200 yds. and head shoots rabbits past 150 yds. its not deer legal nor is my 17 or 22 rimmie. if i was to sell all my rifles the hornet would be the last to go. Quote Link to post
monkie75 1 Posted June 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 I have a cz hornet, reload for it with 40 grain sierra blitzkings, powder is h110. it does 3100 fps over the crono. its cheaper to reload for it than use my 17 hmr, it wellies charlie out to 200 yds. and head shoots rabbits past 150 yds. its not deer legal nor is my 17 or 22 rimmie. if i was to sell all my rifles the hornet would be the last to go. thanks all, now on the case of some of these lighter bullets to try!!! Ps to all the people who were negative about the hornet you should go and try one!! I love it !!!! 1 Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 I'm negative about the Hornet and I've got one. With the factory ammo available around here it's rubbish. The 46gr Winchesters are OK (HP) but nothing special. Can't even get them in a 50 mile radius. The softpoints are shite, they don't expand at all. I want the 35gr Hornady; nobody has them, ever. If I reloaded it would be awesome, if people stocked the ammo it would be awesome. But... a quid a bang for hornet is bloody stupid, I refuse to pay that kind of money. And... a 223 can use factory ammo for 18p a bang, which may be comparatively rubbish but costs 1/10 of some of the other factory stuff. It shoots accurately ENOUGH, and expands well enough to do the job. On deer it's brilliant - generally controlled expansion perfect for the job in question. And it's 18p a bang. Which is cheaper than HMR. So, with factory stuff, it's 223 for me. Quote Link to post
David.evans 5,323 Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 And 14 years later , lol 3 Quote Link to post
BenBhoy 4,706 Posted February 7, 2022 Report Share Posted February 7, 2022 Who says them jocks are slow on the uptake!! Quote Link to post
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