Malt 379 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 carrying a gun concealed or otherwise is only permitted in public with just cause. (similar to the knife laws). and must never be transported loaded ( that is no pellet in the breech, not just in safe mode) Would also like to add, that if the rifle's a multishot, ensure that the magazine is completely empty, or removed from the gun. Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 1) What's the best way of gaining a permission if you're a total newbie in airgun hunting?I don't want to lie about my (lack of) experience but I can't see the average farmer being too keen on having a beginner on their land. Wouldn't want to step on anyone elses toes either.... Gaining permission can be extremely difficult. It involves going to as many farmers/land owners as you can stomach, and offering your services. The more you try the better your chance of success, expect to be turned away. Lots. You just have to persevere and there is no easy way to get around it. Make copies of the permission letters as seen in this thread. Carrying them shows you're serious about your craft and also means you can capitalise on a land owner saying yes. Even though you're eager, try to resist shooting on land where you haven't had a permission letter signed by the land owner. Verbal permission isn't always enough and could see you up with an armed trespass or poaching charge. Be very, very careful of farmers and land owners that will not give you written authorisation. If they're serious about their problem and you're serious about the solution, a signed slip of paper is the least you should get for your efforts. And 2) Any recommendations for a precharged repeater rifle and scope setup. I'd look to spend about £250 and the rig would have to be able to be transported on a motorbike. No restrictions on who answers. I'd value opinions from anyone. You'll be limited on choice of PCP for that kind of money. You're looking at second hand and quality varies in extreme quantities. If you're looking at a serious rifle set up, for your budget, then don't rule out a springer set up. They're more than capable for what you're after. Give the author of this thread an offer for his gun, if he's looking to sell. It falls within your budget and if the condition is as good as he says it is it would be ideal for your purposes. Would also like to add, that if the rifle's a multishot, ensure that the magazine is completely empty, or removed from the gun. ... and to be totally on the safe side make sure there are no pellets in the mag, and no mag in the gun... pellets in one pocket, mag in the other, rifle in the slip. Believe me they will try it on! Quote Link to post
stubby 175 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 droid, from one biker to another, Id say TDR air arms, I did just that, went to the gun shop, told them what I was after, and the guy, noticing I was clad in leather, recomended the .22 TDR, it splits into 3 pieces, stock, gun, silencer and all fits neatly in a oblong case that has rucksack style straps on it, very easy to transport, and connects together in seconds, you'll get a good 60 shots from it, before it needs filling up, so for shooting rabbits, no need to lug the bottle around on the bike, just top up before you leave home as for permission, think outside of the box, dont just look towards farmers for permission, there's garden centres that can be plagued with squirrels, large houses/gardens open to the public, that can have rabbit problems, schools and colleges even, also ask friends and relatives to pass the word around that you do, "free rabbit control" only of course after you have practised with the rifle and can honestly say you can hit the mark, time after time I recieved permission to ferret a large companys social club/football pitch area, only to then be given shooting permission too although a TDR even second hand will prob cost more than £250 you can but look Quote Link to post
Sigmund Fraud 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 droid, this site has quite a lot of pictures on the Air Arms TDR; however most of the prices I can find are quite a bit above your budget. Quote Link to post
droid 11 Posted June 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 The TDR looks a superb piece, but it might require a bit of hard saving... I can probaby fit a gun slip lengthways along the bike, so a full length gun isn't out of the question. Carried 6' section feeder rods that way before. Where there's a will there's a way. I have bungies. The impression I'm getting is that there are very few if any lemons in the precharge £300+ range, and that it's really down to personal preference. Quote Link to post
Scuzy 1 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Droid, have you ever hunted before? If not, its really nice to see you get up and out in the field hunting mate . Sorry if you have, but i was just curious as you said you didnt work your ferrets. Luke. Quote Link to post
droid 11 Posted June 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 No I haven't. Unless you count wandering off into the fields with a .177 when I was a kid. Gotta start somewhere though, and here seems to be an appropriate place. The reason I don't work the ferrets isn't down to being against ferreting, it's just the problem of transport. I could get a ferret box, spade, etc etc on the trike, but I'd probably end up with a couple of blow-waved ferrets.... Quote Link to post
Grim Reaper 1 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Gaining permission can be extremely difficult. It involves going to as many farmers/land owners as you can stomach, and offering your services. The more you try the better your chance of success, expect to be turned away. Lots. You just have to persevere and there is no easy way to get around it. This is very true, I have to agree Make copies of the permission letters as seen in this thread. Carrying them shows you're serious about your craft and also means you can capitalise on a land owner saying yes. I hope they are proving themselves of good use to everyone? Even though you're eager, try to resist shooting on land where you haven't had a permission letter signed by the land owner. Verbal permission isn't always enough and could see you up with an armed trespass or poaching charge. Be very, very careful of farmers and land owners that will not give you written authorisation. If they're serious about their problem and you're serious about the solution, a signed slip of paper is the least you should get for your efforts.Absolutely! Good advice And 2) Any recommendations for a precharged repeater rifle and scope setup. I'd look to spend about £250 and the rig would have to be able to be transported on a motorbike. No restrictions on who answers. I'd value opinions from anyone. You'll be limited on choice of PCP for that kind of money. You're looking at second hand and quality varies in extreme quantities. If you're looking at a serious rifle set up, for your budget, then don't rule out a springer set up. They're more than capable for what you're after. Give the author of this thread an offer for his gun, if he's looking to sell. It falls within your budget and if the condition is as good as he says it is it would be ideal for your purposes. Would also like to add, that if the rifle's a multishot, ensure that the magazine is completely empty, or removed from the gun. ... and to be totally on the safe side make sure there are no pellets in the mag, and no mag in the gun... pellets in one pocket, mag in the other, rifle in the slip. Believe me they will try it on! I'm glad you pointed this out Chris (was going to post simillar, but you have done so).Very important point is this - and not one that is readily known by everyone it concerns I'll bet. Cheers, Grim Quote Link to post
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