Starting out.

[droid 11]

1) What's the best way of gaining a permission if you're a total newbie in airgun hunting?

 

I don't want to lie about my (lack of) experience but I can't see the average farmer being too keen on having a beginner on their land.

Wouldn't want to step on anyone elses toes either....

 

 

And 2)

 

Any recommendations for a precharged repeater rifle and scope setup.

I'd look to spend about £250 and the rig would have to be able to be transported on a motorbike.

 

 

No restrictions on who answers.

I'd value opinions from anyone.

[SNAP SHOT 194]

droid, you have to get out there and ask, otherwise you will never know weather the farmer will say yes or no. As for Airguns sorry but i can't help you out here mate, as i don't shoot one.

[SharpShooter14 0]

Just keep asking around and write letters.

 

Dunno anything about transpot on motorbike. BSA Hornet is quite compact and might fit on your motorbike.

[LDR 29]

I dont know what they're like, but logun sweet16 comes apart and goes in a bag so might be handy on a bike!!!

[celticwar 1]

air arms tdr is take apart to mate ...

mind you a carbine in a tactical back pack ... ride with them no probs

dont no how much ya could find s16 or tdr for ...

me i would just say that your looking for some where to shoot ,bit pest control for free dont even bring how much time spent with shooting guns but do be insured farmers like that

[Sigmund Fraud 0]

I'd say when you get the rifle, practice with it until you can comfortably hit an area the size of your quarries target zone (head or torso, depending on the quarry), then just approach them, either in writing or in person. If you can shoot well, the only thing to get in your way is your ability to track and stalk, which you can improve in the field. You won't have to lie to the land owner about your skills as you'll know that you can make any kill clean.

 

As long as you come across as a friendly person, mention how you're happy to be their eyes and ears while you're out and about (tell them about any problems on their land when you leave) and stress your safety concious, most owners will happily welcome you onto their land.

 

EDIT: On the subject of the rifle, although most people have mentioned carbines and collapsibles, would it be an idea to invest in a high quality case that can be slung over your shoulder and tightened so it doesn't have much wriggle room. Then you can easily travel with a full size rifle, giving you a wider range of rifles to choose from.

Edited June 15, 2008 by Sigmund Fraud

[SEAN3513 7]

just be carefull if your transporting a full size rifle on your back ( you'll probably get stopped every 100yds)...............because of the leagal implications regarding the carrying of ANY weapon in a public place.

 

a take down would be preferable....and there are some good quality ones out there.

 

regards

 

sean

[SEAN3513 7]

with regards to permission.......have a search through this forum there is loads of advice regarding this issue....................and check out the "pinned" topics at the top of the home page!!

 

cheers

 

sean

[Sigmund Fraud 0]

Would you really expect to be stopped Sean? I suppose it depends where you're riding. Maybe I'm desensitized out in the country, but there aren't that many police out and about and if they did see a guy with something like that on his back they'd probably just assume it's some sort of sporting equipment.

[droid 11]

I thought the law prohibited the carrying of uncovered guns in public.

 

The gun would be in a gun slip, at the very least.

The main problem is if the slip is very long, the wind resistace at any speed tries to rip your head off

 

Given the state of biker 'politics' at the moment, carrying an uncovered gun on a bike would be well dodgy in the Midlands.....

 

 

Thanks for the advice so far.

Edited June 15, 2008 by droid

[Corky(amateur) 0]

just be carefull if your transporting a full size rifle on your back ( you'll probably get stopped every 100yds)...............because of the leagal implications regarding the carrying of ANY weapon in a public place.

 

a take down would be preferable....and there are some good quality ones out there.

 

regards

 

sean

 

i carry my air rifle in a proper gun bag on my back on my push bike and have had numerous police cars drive by without batting an eyelid.

[Sigmund Fraud 0]

Yea, while we would all recognise a gun slip for what it is, there aren't many police officer that would. They do just look like they're for miscellaneous sports equipment and carrying them is completely legal.

[SEAN3513 7]

carrying a gun concealed or otherwise is only permitted in public with just cause. (similar to the knife laws). and must never be transported loaded ( that is no pellet in the breech, not just in safe mode)

 

i.e...to and from your permission ( without detour,presumably), to and from gunsmith.

 

i would SUGGEST 9 out of 10 times you would be ok.

 

but it only takes a phone call along the lines of "theres some nutter on a motorbike riding around with a rifle strapped to his back"........from mr or mrs nosey neighbour......and you'll have plod all over you.

 

as always preventative measures are advisable.

 

i'm not saying dont do it....................the cleaner we can keep our image as a sport ..all the better in my opinion.

 

somtimes difficult to say things without sounding like an arse!!!!!!

 

hope you all understand.

 

regards as always

 

sean

Edited June 15, 2008 by SEAN3513

[Deker 3,478]

The gun will have to be in some sort of slip in public..these all have straps so it should be easy to transport on your back.

 

There is always the potential of being stopped but if you are legal then there is no problem...as regards gun..get whatever you want!

 

Easy!

[droid 11]

as regards gun..get whatever you want!

 

Easy!

 

The reason for asking for recommendations is that I don't want to be shelling out good money for something widely regarded as a pile of shite....

 

For example: i've read that early Logun S16's had a tendency to jam, but the Mk2's don't.

Info like that.

 

It's Ok reading the makers websites, or the gun suppliers sites, but nowt beats the personal thoughts of those who've used the guns.