i am thinking of geting my FAC ....help!!!

[scotrat 2]

He did say he is going out with a non FAC holder so I took it to be, he has no experience of Firearms and only experience with air guns,which is a hell of difference to a firearm

Sorry for the mix up but my Firearms department wouldn't issue a FAC without the applicant showing he had been responsible enough to gain the proper training whether it be from an informal source,BASC,DSC or equivalent.

There does seem to be a hell of a difference between police forces and in England the process can take in excess of 6 months.I have dealt with police forces throughout the UK as I run syndicates in Scotland and have members all over the UK.

The easiest to deal with are the Scottish police when asking for variations,open tickets and initial applications.If the boy can get a mentor to help him then brill but if he can't he needs another avenue thats when BASC,DSC and gun clubs come into play.

Any sort of training will help with the process and if it is a goverment approved training course the better it is when applying.

[SportingShooter 0]

The differences are a pain, they will tell you one thing in one place and another in the next.

I had a easy time of getting my FAC, I realise that for some it is more difficult.

My police force are excellent to deal with in most cases, I had one discrepancy with my FEO and I sorted that by refering him to his Firearms Guidance to the Police, which he seems to ignore. He then could not argue.

He may be better off getting his SGC for a few years first and then going on to FAC unless he has a mentor.

 

Regards

SS

[Deker 3,478]

i am 17 years old .

will i get my FAC...i will be going out with an adult (who is a non FAC holder).

i have loads of permition . and it has been inspected by the fier arms officer.

i have no criminal records or convictions.

do you think i will get my FAC...thanks

 

Judging from this thread alone.....

NO!

[lampingking 3]

i am 17 years old .

will i get my FAC...i will be going out with an adult (who is a non FAC holder).

i have loads of permition . and it has been inspected by the fier arms officer.

i have no criminal records or convictions.

do you think i will get my FAC...thanks

 

Judging from this thread alone.....

NO!

thanks for all the advice people... thanks

[Guest basil46]

i am 17 years old .

will i get my FAC...i will be going out with an adult (who is a non FAC holder).

i have loads of permition . and it has been inspected by the fier arms officer.

i have no criminal records or convictions.

do you think i will get my FAC...thanks

 

Judging from this thread alone.....

NO!

thanks for all the advice people... thanks

 

Don`t get so down hearted for a start. All is not lost. As i said before, only your firearms bureau will say yes you can have a FAC. Why don`t you contact your forces bureau and get the relevant application forms and send them in. Then and only then will you find out where you stand. Bear in mind though, your mate is a non FAC holder so he is a no no. (Is that correct SS??) They would probably let you have a .22 but not a 22-250 or a 243. Honestly mate, listen to what SS and co say. I, and they (i`m sure) would like to see you gain your FAC, you, the younger generation are the future of the sport. The decision is yours.

basil.

[lampingking 3]

i am 17 years old .

will i get my FAC...i will be going out with an adult (who is a non FAC holder).

i have loads of permition . and it has been inspected by the fier arms officer.

i have no criminal records or convictions.

do you think i will get my FAC...thanks

 

Judging from this thread alone.....

NO!

thanks for all the advice people... thanks

 

Don`t get so down hearted for a start. All is not lost. As i said before, only your firearms bureau will say yes you can have a FAC. Why don`t you contact your forces bureau and get the relevant application forms and send them in. Then and only then will you find out where you stand. Bear in mind though, your mate is a non FAC holder so he is a no no. (Is that correct SS??) They would probably let you have a .22 but not a 22-250 or a 243. Honestly mate, listen to what SS and co say. I, and they (i`m sure) would like to see you gain your FAC, you, the younger generation are the future of the sport. The decision is yours.

basil.

i will give it a go ...it is worth a try...i might just get it you never no... .and if i dont get it i will have to try next year...thanks for your advice pall.

[scotrat 2]

I agree with basil 100%! The younger shooters should be encouraged

 

My advice is to stick in there and apply for your FAC the FAO will give you all the advice on the criteria set by his superior's.

I have added a link for a short course on firearms from BASC and not too expensive

http://www.basc.org.uk/content/firearms_awareness_course

[Guest basil46]

i am 17 years old .

will i get my FAC...i will be going out with an adult (who is a non FAC holder).

i have loads of permition . and it has been inspected by the fier arms officer.

i have no criminal records or convictions.

do you think i will get my FAC...thanks

 

Judging from this thread alone.....

NO!

thanks for all the advice people... thanks

 

Don`t get so down hearted for a start. All is not lost. As i said before, only your firearms bureau will say yes you can have a FAC. Why don`t you contact your forces bureau and get the relevant application forms and send them in. Then and only then will you find out where you stand. Bear in mind though, your mate is a non FAC holder so he is a no no. (Is that correct SS??) They would probably let you have a .22 but not a 22-250 or a 243. Honestly mate, listen to what SS and co say. I, and they (i`m sure) would like to see you gain your FAC, you, the younger generation are the future of the sport. The decision is yours.

basil.

i will give it a go ...it is worth a try...i might just get it you never no... .and if i dont get it i will have to try next year...thanks for your advice pall.

Now you are sounding like you`re being more sensible about this topic. Safety around firearms is paramount. Once you pull the trigger and that bullet is on it`s way to what you`ve pointed the weapon at, it`s to late and there`s no going back. You`ve got you`re air rifle, learn from that first. It`s for you to prove that you`re capable and sensible enough to own the weapons you desire.

basil.

[Fidgety 8]

If I had to do it all again, I'd join a club, find an FAC mentor and learn from them. In my experience, the leap from air rifle too .22 rimfire is a massive one in terms of safety and anything bigger poses different risks. What was once a nice safe shot on your ground will need to be totally re assessed. Funnily enough, i still take out my air rifle much more often than the .22rf.

Good luck.

[Guest basil46]

If I had to do it all again, I'd join a club, find an FAC mentor and learn from them. In my experience, the leap from air rifle too .22 rimfire is a massive one in terms of safety and anything bigger poses different risks. What was once a nice safe shot on your ground will need to be totally re assessed. Funnily enough, i still take out my air rifle much more often than the .22rf.

Good luck.

You`ve stated a fair point Fidgety. But to bring the post to a close, the lad needs to find his own feet in the world of bigger weapons, therefore he needs to find out for himself where he stands from his own FEO. The only way he`ll find his destiny is to apply for his FAC and stand and be counted.

basil.

[Mr_Logic 5]

Fidgety - I disagree. If a shot is properly safe with an air gun, most of the time it will be safe with a .22 as well. This holds true for rough shooting in fields and so on, buildings etc where concrete exists are different. But then, an air gun might be the better tool there anyway.

 

Out in the field, the pellet/bullet should always be embedding itself into the ground, in which case no worries. And obviously NO TREE SHOOTING!

 

There ARE differences, but I didn't find the step up a big deal at all - I just got on with it. Not sure the police would see it as so minor now though, my step up was back in the 90s, before Dunblane and utter, mad paranoia (back then it was just a little bit paranoid!).

[shottyscotty 3]

What do you want to know?

If you have the Reason, Land, References, Security and send in the right fee, as long as you satisfy all of these and have no major criminal convictions then you should have no problems.

Depending on what rifle you want then you may be asked to have mentoring on a centrefire.

When 17 you can buy guns and ammunition and go out on your own from age 15.

 

Regards

SS

my local shop wont sell to under 18s is that normall

[Fidgety 8]

I see your point Logic, but i suppose it depends on the terrain, and the onward travel of the bullet should it hit a flint etc. I once had a ricochet (air rifle) off a rabbits head!! Its all about learning the capabilities of the tools. There is no substitute for experience.

[SportingShooter 0]

What do you want to know?

If you have the Reason, Land, References, Security and send in the right fee, as long as you satisfy all of these and have no major criminal convictions then you should have no problems.

Depending on what rifle you want then you may be asked to have mentoring on a centrefire.

When 17 you can buy guns and ammunition and go out on your own from age 15.

 

Regards

SS

my local shop wont sell to under 18s is that normall

It depends on what he is selling,

If it is non FAC airguns then he is perfectly correct in not selling them to under 18's.

If it is shotguns or firearms and ammunition then he should sell them to 17's and older, he is only doing himself out of business if he doesn't as there is nothing to prevent him.

 

Regards

SS