Guest gaz100604 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 hi guys going to be getting two patterdale pups in next few weeks around 8-10 weeks old. i plan to use them for rats and rabbits, and intend to raise them around my four year old daughter. dogs are of working nutall lines but if heard on here theres bull in the line.? how safe will they be around my daugher? i want her to be able to open back door walk over to dog and stroke them without being parnoid the dogs gonna bite. anyone had experience with their dogs and kids? thanks gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher-lass 1 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Well i would say with any dog its all in how they are brought up. At that young am sure you wont have a problem as long as your daughter is around them day in day out? Good luuck with the pups Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 I dont have any little kids now so it made no difference getting this adult greyhound as my youngests 13, but in the past i have made sure my terriers shut away when my brothers kids came round here as there not dog owners . providing the kids are schooled about how to behave round the dogs i shouldnt think you will have a problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gaz100604 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Well i would say with any dog its all in how they are brought up. At that young am sure you wont have a problem as long as your daughter is around them day in day out? Good luuck with the pups cheers lad , she will be around the dogs every day one of them will be hers lol. anyone else Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SEAN3513 7 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Well i would say with any dog its all in how they are brought up. At that young am sure you wont have a problem as long as your daughter is around them day in day out? Good luuck with the pups cheers lad , she will be around the dogs every day one of them will be hers lol. anyone else teach them both right............and you'll have no problems. our JRT is keen as mustard on rats etc..........but soft as putty with the kids!!! no such thing as a bad dog...............just bad owners !!!!!!!!!!!!! sure it will be fine...........good choice of dog all the best sean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 You shouldn't have a problem as long as dog's and kids are taught to respect one and other, and the dog knows it's position at the bottom of the pile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 I don't have terriers but I've got a lurcher, a grey, a 4 year old and twin 2.5 years olds And I'm the only adult in the house so I've to manage every one of them. I'd say the most important thing is teaching your daughter to respect the dogs first and foremost. The dogs are young enough to grow up well around a child who is mindful of them being what they are - dogs. I've taught mine not to disturb the dogs when they're sleeping or eating, tho I make a point of doing it myself so they're used to be touched while sleeping or eating. My pup's mouthing was never tolerated and that habit was broken very young. My lurcher is a very boisterous 7 month old now, and she will chase the kids and occasionally nip at them in play or bowl them over, but she isn't malicious in anyway. The kids have learned not to squeal and wave their arms around when the dogs are being daft. Most importantly they know how to say NO to the dogs and turn their backs on them, so the dogs in turn have learned when to leave the kids alone too. The worst thing that happens is the kids getting knocked down when the dogs are going full speed .... so I've taught them to keep their eyes on the dogs when we're all out together, and to stay still when they start running. I usually shout STOP THE DOGS ARE RUNNING!! and accidents are few and far between now. Teaching your daughter how to handle the dogs will make everything easier. Give her the opportunity to bring them up with you and you should be well ahead of the game Good luck! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 I reckon one of the most important things is to teach a child not to disturb the dog when it is sleeping. Taking on two terrier pups at the same time will of course be a lot more work than just taking on one: don't forget too that terriers are a bit different to lurchers: if they get really hyped up when playing they can go into the 'red mist' zone and lash/bite out at anyone interfering with them. Personally I'd not have the pups running round loose unless you are there to supervise every second of the time: it only takes a second for something to go wrong, and I'd NEVER leave a child under the age of 10 unsupervised with a dog. A child of 4 may know the rules of how to behave around dogs, but they forget all too easily, and so do pups! Are you going to rear both pups at the same time in the house? I wouldn't: housetraining alone will be a nightmare! Far better to give the dogs their own kennel and run and allow them into the house for short periods at a time under supervision: that way you are in control of the situation at all times and the dogs have their own space where they can relax and be safe, and the child has the house as her space: that way too, the dogs learn that she is above them in the pecking order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shell 42 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 I've got a 3 year old daughter, 4 Border Terriers and 2 lurchers. I think Lurchergrrls advice is spot on! You've to teach your daughter to repect the dogs, and the dogs likewise to respect your daughter. Only thing I can add is... Our lot live in the house and we've a couple of crates the younger ones sleep in. We've always taught our daughter that if the dogs go in their crates she's to leave them alone. She's also taught that if she's doing something to a dog and it starts to pull away, she's to let it go (eg putting a fairy suit on the lurcher pup, hair clips on the Borders!). Good luck! Have your rules in place for both the pups and your daugter, stick to them from day one, and they'll grow up with huge love and respect for each other. Shell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Yes I should add that mine live in too. They have a crate and bed to retreat to, which is strictly off limits to the kids. And because the dogs live in supervision is pretty much constant. I've got the crates in the living room, so even when the dogs are in they are still able to see/hear the action going on. To be honest I found this invaluable when I brought the grey in, as she was a 14 month old rescue and had never lived in, seen kids etc. She could go in her crate to watch and learn about us in her own space. And now my grey is a complete gem not only with my kids, but all kids she meets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Yes I should add that mine live in too. They have a crate and bed to retreat to, which is strictly off limits to the kids. And because the dogs live in supervision is pretty much constant. I've got the crates in the living room, so even when the dogs are in they are still able to see/hear the action going on. To be honest I found this invaluable when I brought the grey in, as she was a 14 month old rescue and had never lived in, seen kids etc. She could go in her crate to watch and learn about us in her own space. And now my grey is a complete gem not only with my kids, but all kids she meets. I agree about the crate , Madges is her bed she gets in it when she wants & i only lock it when i am busy & if i am out , she is protected in there & having laminate if something startles her she skids all over the place like Bambi , so to me the crates just an extention off a bed but with a top & sides Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,621 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 I keep my bitch in the house with my 2 year old son about,...they get on really well and the dog will do as the kid says,..they do have a carry on he will grab her tail and she will grab his arm ect,...But I know she would never harm him! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sue 1 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Yes I should add that mine live in too. They have a crate and bed to retreat to, which is strictly off limits to the kids. And because the dogs live in supervision is pretty much constant. I've got the crates in the living room, so even when the dogs are in they are still able to see/hear the action going on. To be honest I found this invaluable when I brought the grey in, as she was a 14 month old rescue and had never lived in, seen kids etc. She could go in her crate to watch and learn about us in her own space. And now my grey is a complete gem not only with my kids, but all kids she meets. I agree about the crate , Madges is her bed she gets in it when she wants & i only lock it when i am busy & if i am out , she is protected in there & having laminate if something startles her she skids all over the place like Bambi , so to me the crates just an extention off a bed but with a top & sides i agree they need their own little den to get away ,i hate it when the poor dogs are constantly being dragged from pillow to post good animal respect is needed from children and with that hopefully a good bond and a life time of friendship ,but i would never leave a child undrer 10 alone with a dog you just never know its a lot better to be safe than sorry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Running 7 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 (edited) i have had SBTs for 20 years and both my children were brought up around them and never had as much as a bad look between them its just common sense a dogs a dog a kid is a kid and make it clear from day one kids come first i would rather see a dog ina run then a crate to be honest and i would never under no circumsyances allow any of my dogs to put their teeth on any child full stop no reason under the sun for it to happern Edited June 6, 2008 by Running Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gaz100604 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 hi guys thank you for all your replies very good points , as you all said gonna tell the little girl to respect the dogs not pull and yank at them etc not touching them when they eat and sleep is probablly the most important. dogs will be kept outside in dogs box in the yard occasionally brought into house for an hour tops. thanks for all the advice will take all your comments on board gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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