threbb 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Has anyone had experience of a dog without a scrotum still at eight months. Ive been told wait until 12months and if nothing vet can operate to bring em down if they are there but I have also read on tinternet that the dog should automatically be neutered.If anyone has any knowledge or past experience other than "Take him to the vet mate" I would be grateful to hear about it before I speak to a vet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LDR 29 Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Ask Woodga he's just had the same problem, think it ended up with the vet neutering!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevoidOvTalent 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 If there is NO sign of them at all, you can't feel or see them as a lump under the skin inside the hind leg, they are not going to come down at this age. The inguinal ring in the flank area that the testicle has to pass through to get into the scrotum typically closes at 6 months old. A testicle on the aft side of the ring still has a chance to come down; one on the fore side will not, the ring is too small for it to get through. If this were my dog, I'd plan on neutering him, as bringing the testicles down through the inguinal ring will be an iffy proposition at best, if it is even possible. Retained testicles are usually considered to be genetic on the bitch's side; if you did have the testicles brought down and bred him, his daughters would pass it on to their sons. FWIW, I have had dogs with a testicle that came down very late, after eight months, but it was easily felt in the rear flank and could be manipulated into the scrotum before it came down and stayed there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
threbb 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 If there is NO sign of them at all, you can't feel or see them as a lump under the skin inside the hind leg, they are not going to come down at this age. The inguinal ring in the flank area that the testicle has to pass through to get into the scrotum typically closes at 6 months old. A testicle on the aft side of the ring still has a chance to come down; one on the fore side will not, the ring is too small for it to get through. If this were my dog, I'd plan on neutering him, as bringing the testicles down through the inguinal ring will be an iffy proposition at best, if it is even possible. Retained testicles are usually considered to be genetic on the bitch's side; if you did have the testicles brought down and bred him, his daughters would pass it on to their sons. FWIW, I have had dogs with a testicle that came down very late, after eight months, but it was easily felt in the rear flank and could be manipulated into the scrotum before it came down and stayed there. Thats not good news but thanks for the advice it sound like I ought to be contacting my vet. I was curious to about the hereditary effects. Do you think the sister to this dog could be bred or is she likely to carry the gene from her mother. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevoidOvTalent 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I have not been able to find any definitive information on the heredity of retained testicles. It does not seem to be a simple recessive, where you just avoid breeding to a line that exhibits the problem. I have heard of dogs with a retained testicle that never produced a pup with one, and bitches with no retained testicles in her lines that produced pups with them. There is also the possibility that it could be a freak accident during development, the testicles being physically unable to come down due to being too closely attached to the kidneys, or having too short of cords. There are also dietary and environmental considerations. I recently heard about a bitch that was vaccinated for Rabies while pregnant and none of the male pups testicles came down at all. The sister might produce pups with the problem, might not. If she is a good bitch, I would be inclined to breed her and see what happens, but I would out cross her, not breed her to a close relative. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sulurian 3 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 whats the time in texas d,o,t Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SJM Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I got an email off a woman who has a border terrier pup off me and he has no testicals at 7 months, her vet has told her he will need to be neutered as they can turn cancerous. She asked me for my opinion and if I'd ever experienced it before and I had to be honest and say no, but I think I tempted fate by saying that as my 6 month old lurcher dog pup seems to only have one down in his sack, its early days as bigger dogs mature more slowly, but I am a bit concerned incase the other one doesnt come down Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest little lurcher Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 i think often its best to have the chop so to speak, as in humans as well as dogs , the reatined testicle is kept at an incorrect temp and therefore is a much higher risk of testicular cancer , my own son had to have his brought down at the age of 7 due to every year the percentage of risk goes up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I only ever experienced this in a male cat he was 12 months before the dropped , the vet wanted to wait , so i waited, but i would have taken him to be castrated anyway even if they hadnt materialised at 12 months Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 I'd say wait a bit my dog's didnt drop till he was over 10mnths old...dogs develop at diff rates just like us and he's basically still a pup get some reassurance from your vet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BenBhoy 4,706 Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 no balls....?? hmm...not a member of the labour party is he?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 massage them they ll drop , LL how come you didnt chop the kids nuts off your quick to do the poor dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BenBhoy 4,706 Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 lol a massage eh topper?? might tell my missus thats what i need!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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