Dogo Argentino or performance American Bulldog

[Guest ocs1867]

Which one would you choose if you needed a hog dog?

[andyfoster10 0]

dogo argentinos are illegal

but would defo get 1 if i was living in spain or somewhere like that

[BlueCoyote 0]

legalities aside.....

i have heard Dogos are better..... which seems odd since American Bulldogs (or white english, old southern white etc, not the recent KC crap) are older and have been at it longer.... but i think the Dogo has been bred to be harder and tougher.

 

i would worry about using ABs because i've heard they are nose biters.. and thats probably not something you'd want for hunting hogs. the people i know that hunt hogs with dogs use pit bulls and curs... one for bay one for catch and either/or for both.

 

and here is a website i found just by typing in hunting with dogo argentinos.... http://www.huntingdogos.com/hunting.asp

my opinion is that the Dogo is what the AB used to be.... for now anyway.

Edited June 2, 2008 by BlueCoyote

[Guest ocs1867]

I've stumbled accross some videos by accident on youtube of a Dogo vs Puma and I recall the Dogo won the match.

 

I have heard that Dogo's were used to hunt Jaguars but cant find anything about it on the net.

[FJager 0]

Dogo mate, there is absolutely no comparison, wouldn't use an Ambull full stop, they were never like the Dogo.

[shaddow 166]

amazing dogs , ability and temperment wise

 

ghost ages 6 months old

 

 

[potstillgold 2]

amazing dogs , ability and temperment wise

 

agreed, that's what makes them possibly the second best breed for boar-hunting : )

 

cheers!

[Pops 19]

alot of BS about. a good AB is as good a catchdog as a good dogo. not all dogos will track. in the USA they have been used extensively as catchdogs. the nose has been neglected. the AB has never been bred for nose. if you just need a catchdog pits are cheap and common. means easy to replace WHEN they get killed. if you need a dog to find and catch then a dogo is the best choice of purebred but you have to either import from a good hunting breeder in argentina or really look hard at the american breeders as none are really trying to preserve the nose in the breed. a more likely option is to find a good blackmouth cur heavy w/ wright's bounty hunter and wrights yellow jacket or carnathan blood. those dogs will find and catch and do it smart like stopping the hog and wait till you get there to catch. back that up w/ a pit/bullbreed mix from the pound or a free to good home and you'll bring home the pork.

[Guest ESS]

Just out of curiosity why is this topic posted here

[Tiny 7 1,694]

amazing dogs , ability and temperment wise

 

ghost ages 6 months old

 

 

He is comeing on a treat mate... Atb T 7

[BlueCoyote 0]

i would be worried about getting just any dog out of the pound or paper....

it might be a pit bull, AB, or Siberian tiger hound... doesnt mean THAT dog is going to catch anything but fleas and flies.

i've seen ABs stand well away from a boar and head the other direction with their tails between their legs.

some have it and some dont. you wont know it until they've been properly tested.

 

and maybe some people dont have a hard time bringing home a dog that MIGHT work, only to find out it wont and then dumping him BACK in the pound, or shooting it between the eyes, but honestly i dont think that's fair, and it could end up being a waste of time and money.

 

ESS where else should this topic be posted? lol

[richard25 0]

I agree with Pops

 

Aside from the fact that in the UK we cant have dogo's as i would love one, but American Bulldogs are used alot in the US for Hog hunting usually just the catching & they use the Curs for the bay & just let the AB go one they have the hog in sight & i have a couple of dvds most notable the don mathews "real deal" one in which they just use the AB & dam they do a brilliant just

 

I truly believe American Bulldogs are one of the most versatile breeds going from hog hunting to people hunting & they diffiniatly have that "guard" attitude & generally make good working dogs for whatever your use.

 

P.S maybe i am just saying this cause i have one & his my pride & joy but at four years old he has been with me in some sticky situations & has never once let me down & you cant say that about alot of dogs!!! i think generally its finding the "great" breeder of your chosen breed & as they say "a good dog is a good dog not matter the breed" & sometimes i find you can find a greater differenc within a breed than you sometimes find in different breeds all together ie a show shepherd to a working shepherd a working Lab to a show Lab etc you get the point.

 

Just find a good breeder who breeds & uses his dogs for what you want to use your new dog for & your be on the right track

 

Goodluck

[hagar 5]

legalities aside.....

i have heard Dogos are better..... which seems odd since American Bulldogs (or white english, old southern white etc, not the recent KC crap) are older and have been at it longer.... but i think the Dogo has been bred to be harder and tougher.

 

i would worry about using ABs because i've heard they are nose biters.. and thats probably not something you'd want for hunting hogs. the people i know that hunt hogs with dogs use pit bulls and curs... one for bay one for catch and either/or for both.

 

and here is a website i found just by typing in hunting with dogo argentinos.... http://www.huntingdogos.com/hunting.asp

my opinion is that the Dogo is what the AB used to be.... for now anyway.

If dogos are better how come the trophy hunters dont use em in the states, the dogo is a cross of a few breeds from the 30s, its been called a fighting dog lol alround hunter seen em trying to fight bulls, leopards and wild boar all of which they can do to a fair degree but the old hill bulldogs ,scott, hines type are the dog of choice for those who make their living catching wild boar bred for catch purposes for over a 100 years a true specialist, check out white knights kennels, as for the dogo being bred harder its a dog never taken seriously as a pit dog by those that know, good bulldogs have gameness dogos dont they are a little better than a english bull terrier but not much

[potstillgold 2]

If dogos are better how come the trophy hunters dont use em in the states

the states is not the place to measure a dogs ability on boar

, the dogo is a cross of a few breeds from the 30s, its been called a fighting dog lol alround hunter seen em trying to fight bulls, leopards and wild boar all of which they can do to a fair degree but the old hill bulldogs ,scott, hines type are the dog of choice for those who make their living catching wild boar

avilability has everything to say here!

bred for catch purposes for over a 100 years a true specialist, check out white knights kennels, as for the dogo being bred harder its a dog never taken seriously as a pit dog by those that know, good bulldogs have gameness dogos dont they are a little better than a english bull terrier but not much

I think you'll find that an great EBT will never measure up to an average Dogo Argentino, in the same way that a great AB will never match a great Dogo Argentino. All said in done, there is only one breed which will out-perform them all. Alano Español. Fact! A decent Alano will out-class the best of any other breed or cross-type hands down. No other breed has the stamina or balance to sustain a hunt under the midday sun on the mountain for a relantless 5 hours, so don't come to me with the idea that hunting some farm-pig from the back of a truck on level terrain is some sort of measure of a boar-dog

 

potstillgold

[Pops 19]

Coyote

the desire to fight and hold is soo ingrained in bull & terriers that out of 3-4 pet bulls from the pound at least one will make a fair catchdog and you might get one or two helpers to hold you over until you get a good catchdog raised up. also 1st crosses have a way of unlocking the genes that crap breeders are shutting down so a labXboxer or dalmationXbullmastiff from the pound has as good a chance or better. most such dogs are free to good home & in the pound because the owner (who probably shouldn't own a goldfish) can't handle the dog and the dog is running the house. there are dozens of GOOD pig & bear dogs put down everyday or wasting away w/obesity because they never got a chance. ultimately most dogs want to be dogs and are thrilled to start hunting.

 

you've seen ABs tuck & run, i've seen the same from "well bred" pits. i've not seen it in the 1/2 dozen dogos or the couple of ABs that i've hunted with (all had at least some hines or stout breeding). i've seen bear bred plotts that were "gritty bear dogs" turned into cheerleaders by rough hogs. i've also seen beagles that didn't have a field dog in their 10 gen ped stretch a coyote. one latched on the throat of a coyote 2X his size and hung like a bulldog. i know of a fella in iowa had his 6month old basset hound get his leg broke and still had to be physically removed from a hog.

there's no telling what a dog (any dog) is going to do until you put it on the spot, but you can play the percentages. that means you got a better chance than not of getting a hard dog from bull or mastiff background.

 

as for fair, is it fair to take a great hunter and electroshock the hunt drive out of him and end his life early from obesity because some needle penis wants to compensate w/a tough dog? or let a potentially great catchdog be put down because MOST people are incompetant to handle a goldfish let alone a real dog.

it's only a waste of time if you half ass it and expect dynamite results, which is what most people do w/ free/cheap dogs. now if where you live the pound charges more than it costs to buy a descent purebred, then yeah it's a waste of money. but where i live i can get 4 pet bulls for less than $200 from the pound and the occassional free to good home. if they're a little rough, it usually ain't nothing smart handling or a hotshot won't fix. yeah they still might be put down but at least they get a chance at a good hard life. and you got to be smart about it. if i go to the pound and see a plott he's probably there because he's not a bear/boar dog. the pointer OTH is probably an incurable fur hunter and might make a hogdog. the labXcollie has some good stuff in the background give him a crack and he might make a fair smart baydog. that bostonXbeagle might just be a gritty little baydog perfect for blackberry thickets.

hogdogging is a very individual thing for dogs. for a variety of reasons (but mostly poor overbreeding for $) a lot of purebreds that are supposed to be the cats ass aren't worth a crap.