David James lurchers

[whin 463]

saw afew d jameses dog decent but as you say no world beaters and not fast but durable , and as for not useing top class tried and tested stock not being cheecky if that was the case i wouldnt go the breadth and lentgh of this country to reproduce what i have i think ,and well hanckock well mass producer end of story, to get top class dogs that produce regulary you need to only breed with dogs of there ilk or with the same bloodlines to keep on going saw five collie generaitions in my breeding and saw not many collie types with the same attitude for the hunt or kill etc and yes it does help if you no what your doing with your dog and no the breding of them i disagree with mass produced untried dogs as you never no what you get

[Moorman 1 1,437]

I saw a racey type bitch that James bred,work on a number of occassions twenty six years back.She was nothing special.I have seen many better Hancock dogs work.

[Guest SJM]

I have a David James bred dog who has served me well for many years and is still doing a bit of work allthough hes old, grey and going deaf. He is the sire to Breeze's blue bitch in the picture. I paid £65 for him as a pup and he was the best £65 I ever spent. David James is an elderly man now so I doubt he works his dogs as much these days but I think in the years gone by, he would have done a bit more than Hancock My dogs never let me down over the years, Ive taken everything with him and he has only had a couple of very minor injuries in 10 seasons of work.

[samba 534]

WASNT THE COLLIE LURCHER CALLED DRUM A DJ BRED DOG

GOT A VIDEO OF THIS DOG

[whin 463]

saw drum many years ago abig lump of a dog but he looked good, but localy they are not for the land we hunt but nice dogs d slight was going to use drum but m chappmans bob came along , localy you need good pace for lamping and daylight i think the james lurchers were more suited to mooching and rough cover work but i maybe wrong

[breeze 1,318]

Whin / Samba ..... The Drum dog wasn't D. James bred , but was put over a DJ owned / bred bitch to produce my older bitch Purdey. Drum was a decent animal, (altho his sire would of knocked spot's off him in the field) saw him work several time's, but has T. Nixon admitted would probably had been a even better dog in somebody's else's hand's due to Tony's ill health at time's not allowing him to get out has much has he would of liked.

 

Samba .... the video was done has a kind of stud promotional thing, ( well edited ) and I supposed it worked has he covered several collie bred bitches.

 

Drum.....

 

 

Drum's sire.... "Billy"

 

 

Drum's dam ...... J. Wright's ... "Jewell"

[Guest SJM]

some nice pics there Breeze my dog is a big lump of a thing compared with them, he looks like an old farm collie

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Interesting, concise and erudite post there Breeze...choc-full of relevant info and data, delivered from someone who was there

 

Nice photos,.well done....

Edited June 2, 2008 by CHALKWARREN

[whin 463]

saw tony nixon drum and the promotional vid it would be a few years ago now, like the little merle dog etc at the botttom not into collie fied looking things unless with real pace as ive saw them struggle to catch fast game on short winter wheat ,but nice to loook at i suppose when i breed lana there a chance of a furry thing but hopefully ile get smooths like her and racy with a bit attitude i mind a little guy had a big black and white collie dog who was at the feild trails and p douglas had maggie saw them all work in there diffrent styles cheers

[samba 534]

HAD A COLLIEX OUT OF DRUM X BRIANS ELLIS FLY ABOUT 12YRS BACK NOW

HE WAS A LUMP OF A DOG AS WELL 261/2 TTS AND ABOUT 75LB

WAS A DECENT HARE CATCHER THROUGH THE DAY

ALSO A MEMBER ON HERE AD HIS BROTHER AS WAS A VERY GOOD FOX DOG

[samba 534]

TIS IS A PIC OF HIM

[whin 463]

ye nice dogs samba, aidie, was the guy with a big black and white collie cross ,it must be 12 years ,since i saw that dog and its been 6 since i saw aidie many years ago ,

[breeze 1,318]

Mind you,...I've featured in a few DVDs myself that could do with some editing.... :icon_

 

Chalky .... your not wrong there

 

Samba .... Would that of been out of the 1st litter ????, has Ellis used Drum twice on the "FLY" bitch. I did hear that the resulting dog pup's from both litter's threw fair size animal's, whereas the bitches levelled out to around 23/24". In saying that, even litter's further down the line that were bred more recently come out the same

 

Whin .... That dog would of been A. Godfrey's "Sam" ..... litter brother to my old bitch's Dam.

What was the Collie dog that you had .... sire to Lana I think ???? Do you have any pic's ???

[lamp+battery 98]

Does anybody still keep and work this line of collie based lurchers?

 

 

yes mate i have a dog. his litter is on you tube.

this is a pic ov him. atb lb

[samba 534]

MINE WAS THE SECOND LITTER TO DRUM