Dilema

[hingindoolie 0]

Learn to stalk better then, Problem solved!!!

 

Or as Dogs said, get a ferret and nets in there if your allowed.

 

Ah, just noticed, no ferrets!

 

Stalking lessons it is then!!

 

Only asked for advice on air guns. did not ask to be insulted. Dont worry wont ask in this section again.

 

Insulted???? You asked for advice, i gave it,

 

I apolagise if it wasn't the advice you were looking for but your options are very few.

 

I suggest next time you should ask for the advice that you want to hear, rather than what other people deem to be good advice.

Stalking lessons were suggested by yourself infering that my stalking skills were inadequate and now you wish to make something of my integrity also . The advice I was hoping for was that someone may tell me of an air rifle that could kill a rabbit at 100yds plus.

 

 

30 yrs hunting, and you ask what air rifle can kill lots of rabbits

at 100yds +

Go and ask in your local gun shop, i'm sure they'll sell you something

 

and spend the rest of the day laughing their nuts off.

Think that says it all. your right though i should have just gone to my gun shop but then I would not have met a nice guy like you that gives good advice to people who know nothing about air guns.

 

Look, i gave you advice, you chose not to take it and then said i had insulted your stalking skills, how do you think other people shoot rabbits with a 12ftlb rifle?

Or do they only shoot the odd one or two here and there, when they are "lucky"enough to get one that wanders into range.

 

At the end of the day, it is impractical to try and shoot large numbers of rabbits from that distance with an air rifle.

Thanks for the banter but offered good advice on AIR RIFLES that can deliver from other members.

[hingindoolie 0]

try a rws 500 can be tuned up 100 ft pound if that wont do it cant think what will good look pal

Thanks Wats.

[Deker 3,478]

Thanks for the banter but offered good advice on AIR RIFLES that can deliver from other members

 

 

 

 

No you haven't...you have just been told about higher powered air rifles that can deliver -100ft lb!

 

I really do think you should calm down and look at the facts, how many of these people who have mentioned high power air have any experience with them?

 

There are only a handful of Air Rifles that will deliver -100Ft lb and they are just as dangerous as a Rimmy. In addition a sub sonic rimmy will be in the order of 100ft lb and the majority of sensible EXPERIENCED shooters will tell you this is pushing the boundary to the limit and is NOT the ammo to shoot rabbits at 100 yards! I find it strange that none of these other air gun shooters you feel have offered "good" advice have mentioned this rather important detail.

 

In addition, at that distance and on flatter areas you will have a serious risk of air/sub sonic ammo bouncing all over the place. However daft your council may be I think as a shooter you should explain the reality to them and if they can't accept it walk away. You are the "professional/expert" here, you tell them! Making compromises of reality/safety/ignorance is appalling!

 

What part of the country are you in, 22-250 on Roe?

[targa 5]

Cheap and simple, a Bsa Techstar .22 with a good scope. 38 Ftlbs can do the job easy.

[SEAN3513 7]

i think its more a case of...........the council need educating.

 

a high powered air rifle is more dangerous than a sub sonic rimfire ........is it not????

 

perhaps someone could confirm this......please??

 

it only needs to go wrong.....................and its more bad press for airgunning!!!!!!

 

in my opinion good feildcraft is the answer.

 

regards

 

sean

[shaun22 0]

Hi all, need help.

Just been given a contract to kill what seems like a few thousand rabbits on some playing fields next to a golf course that I already control rabbits on with a 10/22. Problem is that the playing fields are Council property and will only let us use air guns but, the catch is its all at around 100yd+ range. I have never used or owned air so what would you guys recommend.

Cheers Hing.

 

I've no doubt that there are air rifles that can shoot that far, but to have any oomph left at that range you will need to be shooting solid bullet type pellets, and keeping them weighed, sized and accurate will need some effort and science. Certainly not like buying a brick of LR.

 

At high power levels its also worth bearing in mind how very few shots you will get between refills. You may be better to shoot from a linked bulk tank if your shooting from a fixed position on a bipod.

 

I would be interested to know how you get on, what you want to do is not impossible but quite unusual in the UK so advise and equipment will be thin on the ground.

[leeclackster 0]

ok where do i start the councel where you got this permission must be crazy to even let any one shoot on playing fields...Dont know what part of the country your from ' but where i live if i did that i would be hung drawn and quarterd' i cant understand 22 bullet or fac air there still both firearms and if you cherish your fac tickets then i would not take the councels word its a public area and playing fields are very rarely completley empty teens/ kids/ dog /walkers/ shaggers/drinkers and smokers it just sounds crazy that the councel are even considerd a fac weapon of any kind.............but good luck my friend hope you can sort this out the real deal is that on this forum we dont have such power and relie

on are skills as close range hunting....see thats what it comes down to wheather or not that you have the skills and the patientce to get close i bet i most of us airgunners could solve your problems with a 12ft lb and a 40yd kill zone

[countrycommando89 7]

Career "Dragon Slayer" drop onto Youtube and type in "air gun hunting" and look for this rifle you will not believe it, 100 yard kills no probs with this Bad Boy, not sure where you will get one from though?? but there will be someone on here who will be able to help.

 

Good luck

Coney.

 

how many shots will he get out of one fill though. i thought they only did like 3 shots. correct me if im wrong those sort of guns are way out of my league. with any air rifle that is going to kill at 100 yrds i think you are going to have to take a divers tank with you and just refill every so many shots. can i just ask are the council going to have to pay for this new gun you will have to get.

[JOE BLOCKY 0]

50 yards max for 12flb air rifle........although i have heard of some people shooting vermin with one at 70 yards?? but i wouldnt recommended it...as you prob have to 'put it out of its pain'

 

 

ps. is the max hunting range for a .22lr/5.56 standard velocity 120 yards??? how much does the range increase if i were to use hyper velocity hollowpoints?

[Guest bigredbusa]

ok , now dont bite my head off young skywalker but i think you should just stick with 12 - 30 ft lb and use a hide , the noise a 100ft lb airgun would dare i say it ........LOUD even using the best silencer /moderator.

 

im very surprised the council are letting you loose on a playing field with an FAC , i dont think i would want to take the risk insured or not

[gizmo 1]

shin shung carrera 9 mm not a problem taking them out but you need

to use mushroom heads and not bullet heads as i have one myself

[hingindoolie 0]

Thanks for the banter but offered good advice on AIR RIFLES that can deliver from other members

 

 

 

 

No you haven't...you have just been told about higher powered air rifles that can deliver -100ft lb!

 

I really do think you should calm down and look at the facts, how many of these people who have mentioned high power air have any experience with them?

 

There are only a handful of Air Rifles that will deliver -100Ft lb and they are just as dangerous as a Rimmy. In addition a sub sonic rimmy will be in the order of 100ft lb and the majority of sensible EXPERIENCED shooters will tell you this is pushing the boundary to the limit and is NOT the ammo to shoot rabbits at 100 yards! I find it strange that none of these other air gun shooters you feel have offered "good" advice have mentioned this rather important detail.

 

In addition, at that distance and on flatter areas you will have a serious risk of air/sub sonic ammo bouncing all over the place. However daft your council may be I think as a shooter you should explain the reality to them and if they can't accept it walk away. You are the "professional/expert" here, you tell them! Making compromises of reality/safety/ignorance is appalling!

 

What part of the country are you in, 22-250 on Roe?

 

Scotland and now your probably going to tell me I need lessons on what to shoot Roe with. You really are the business aye.

[Deker 3,478]

Thanks for the banter but offered good advice on AIR RIFLES that can deliver from other members

 

 

 

 

No you haven't...you have just been told about higher powered air rifles that can deliver -100ft lb!

 

I really do think you should calm down and look at the facts, how many of these people who have mentioned high power air have any experience with them?

 

There are only a handful of Air Rifles that will deliver -100Ft lb and they are just as dangerous as a Rimmy. In addition a sub sonic rimmy will be in the order of 100ft lb and the majority of sensible EXPERIENCED shooters will tell you this is pushing the boundary to the limit and is NOT the ammo to shoot rabbits at 100 yards! I find it strange that none of these other air gun shooters you feel have offered "good" advice have mentioned this rather important detail.

 

In addition, at that distance and on flatter areas you will have a serious risk of air/sub sonic ammo bouncing all over the place. However daft your council may be I think as a shooter you should explain the reality to them and if they can't accept it walk away. You are the "professional/expert" here, you tell them! Making compromises of reality/safety/ignorance is appalling!

 

What part of the country are you in, 22-250 on Roe?

 

Scotland and now your probably going to tell me I need lessons on what to shoot Roe with. You really are the business aye.

 

 

NO that's why I asked what part of the country you are in, 22-250 is more than capable of stopping Roe deer (and reds for that matter) but there are legal issues of course with certain calibres, certain deer and certain regions of the UK!!

[Guest basil46]

How about lamping with dogs? or have i missed it somewhere else in the post.

basil.

[hingindoolie 0]

Thanks for the banter but offered good advice on AIR RIFLES that can deliver from other members

 

 

 

 

No you haven't...you have just been told about higher powered air rifles that can deliver -100ft lb!

 

I really do think you should calm down and look at the facts, how many of these people who have mentioned high power air have any experience with them?

 

There are only a handful of Air Rifles that will deliver -100Ft lb and they are just as dangerous as a Rimmy. In addition a sub sonic rimmy will be in the order of 100ft lb and the majority of sensible EXPERIENCED shooters will tell you this is pushing the boundary to the limit and is NOT the ammo to shoot rabbits at 100 yards! I find it strange that none of these other air gun shooters you feel have offered "good" advice have mentioned this rather important detail.

 

In addition, at that distance and on flatter areas you will have a serious risk of air/sub sonic ammo bouncing all over the place. However daft your council may be I think as a shooter you should explain the reality to them and if they can't accept it walk away. You are the "professional/expert" here, you tell them! Making compromises of reality/safety/ignorance is appalling!

 

What part of the country are you in, 22-250 on Roe?

 

Scotland and now your probably going to tell me I need lessons on what to shoot Roe with. You really are the business aye.

 

 

NO that's why I asked what part of the country you are in, 22-250 is more than capable of stopping Roe deer (and reds for that matter) but there are legal issues of course with certain calibres, certain deer and certain regions of the UK!!

Ok Ive changed my mind and I think I quite like you now ( tenacious begger that you are ). We have had good tongue in cheek banter and i know its time to fess up. In honesty i am totaly ignorant of air guns of any description having been brought up on shotgun and big bores from a young age. Its only in the past 8-10 years that I have specialised in Golf Course long contracts for the control of rabbits. It does not pay a fortune but does pay for fuel and ammo along with a few pints. The main earner is with taking deer that cause probs with their eating habits ( Saplings ) and foxes that play havoc with local release penns.

The issue with the Air gun and 100 yds + does not realy matter now that it has been made clear by all the post replies that 12lbs/ft to 100 lbs/ft is like pop gun to sherman tank and risks are high.

The replies recieved will be attached to a letter of thought for the council and lets hope that sense prevails.

Many thanks all Garry.