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[damashaman 1]

Breeding with dead or dying terriers is impossible. Waiting till 3 years of digging experience is gambling, what do you do, wait for them to get tired and jib before you breed them? Breed them young to drop back on in the future I say. Otherwise extinct the breed!

 

Plus old and tired terriers are sometimes too spent to even have a litter.

[Guest SHOT]

Waiting till 3 years of digging experience is gambling, what do you do, wait for them to get tired and jib before you breed them? Breed them young to drop back on in the future I say. Otherwise extinct the breed!

do you think if everyone practised that ,the standard of working dogs would still be what it is today?

[damashaman 1]

with the best will in the world, the best bred dogs in the world will not always perform. Its often down to entering and who has the dog. Out of 5 pups of the best bred terriers often only 2 will make the grade depending who is on the top of the lead. Some (most) over face a young game dog and carry on with them until they jib, giving 18-months -2 years to mature will yield far more longevity, and a better rate of success.

[waz77 15]

Breeding with dead or dying terriers is impossible. Waiting till 3 years of digging experience is gambling, what do you do, wait for them to get tired and jib before you breed them? Breed them young to drop back on in the future I say. Otherwise extinct the breed!

 

Plus old and tired terriers are sometimes too spent to even have a litter.

 

If the dogs a jibber then it should'nt be bred from anyway,thats the whole point of giving them as much work as poss before you breed,so you know they not gona jack after a few seasons.

Would you have much confidence in the pups if 6 months after they were born one of the parents quit? I know i would'nt

[damashaman 1]

when they are pushed they will either jib or die, pit bull paradox no1, can't breed from a dead, dead game dog!

[smelly dog 16]

 

 

 

Edited September 18, 2008 by smelly dog

[damashaman 1]

same sh1 diferent dog, test them to death = no pups.

[smelly dog 16]

 

 

 

Edited September 18, 2008 by smelly dog

[waz77 15]

You know what they say smelly dog....if you give some people enough rope!!!

[damashaman 1]

understood!

[smelly dog 16]

 

 

 

Edited September 18, 2008 by smelly dog

[Guest pip]

I reckon theres more dogs quiting now than ever,somethings wrong lads either fellas are working the dogs wrong,overmatching them too soon or the quality of the dogs is deteriorating.OR some fellas have a macho idea of quiting a dog,i know some who work hard to get a decent well bred animal then rear it reck it and mouth of about the bad breeding.

[greggy 18]

heard a good one the other day.......when a lad i know was telleing some terrier lads that he thougt due to his young dogs style in the ground he thought it would either spew or be lost to ground.their reply....."every dog spews in the end"!!!!!!!!!what the f**k?i dont know these lads very well and from what i have known they seemed decent lads but after that comment im not sure what to make of them,they also instructed my mate to work his young dog sore to calm it down a bit.i cant see that doing any good for the dog hes only 18 month and has only had 6 digs allready looking like hes seen alot more,after that last comment im not supprised all their dogs jack.

[kirstysdad 827]

I reckon theres more dogs quiting now than ever,somethings wrong lads either fellas are working the dogs wrong,overmatching them too soon or the quality of the dogs is deteriorating.OR some fellas have a macho idea of quiting a dog,i know some who work hard to get a decent well bred animal then rear it reck it and mouth of about the bad breeding.

pip think you hit the nail on the head about some fellas and their macho ideas about terriersand what they expect from them heard a lad talking about a terrier he had that had just jacked on him i asked him what happened he said he had had 2 foxs the week before with it and then it went to ground and only stayed 10 minutes then came out he dont know why after making some inquirys i was able to tell him why the terrier in question or should i say pup had jacked was only 10 months old what did he expect as for breeding from young dogs sometimes waiting is not a option especialyif you know the dogs are not going to change and probably be retired early maybe parents and granparents were the same personly i would try to outcross to something softer to try and extend their working lifes but then its trying to find something that suits u and your style of hunting

[Dabhand 887]

he didnt need to bring my name into it thats all

dev mate breed out of what you want to breed of dont let any body else worry you , only you can value you dogs