markieboi 0 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 right i have a albino here which is from really good working parants and her parants parants where crackers but to be frank she doesnt have a clue i have done everything to try and get her to work thats fine she is a pet now which i dont have a problem with. People say oh if its working parants its going to be a great worker ect ect but this isnt really true is it? I had a jill from show lines just a normal light polecat and she was the best worker i had the honour of owning so what are your views it matters more on the up brining and how you start the ferret off? thanks mark Quote Link to post
The one 8,545 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Given the choice i would only take a worker to worker breeding twice last season we had over 7 foot to dig for the ferrets and backed up rabbits ,and i just like to think the ferrets still going to be there with the rabbits when i get there and i reckon worker to worker my best option . Quote Link to post
markieboi 0 Posted May 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 what would it pass on tho ? surly it matters more on how you start there ferret off and what age you start it? my opinion Quote Link to post
will.f11 24 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 apparently the lines dont make much difference because a ferret has natural instinct to hunt but i think this is a load of bullshit Quote Link to post
Guest bigredbusa Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 i think it depends on how many generations that you go back with the workers , if they are first off young workers then yes they may throw rubbish workers Quote Link to post
The one 8,545 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 With my jills i wont bred them unless they have proven themselves over two or three seasons and when i get a kitt i wont do much with it in its first season gentle careful handling and by the second season there of mind and body size to go it alone and i wont have to put another ferret in after them to check if they have missed a rabbit Quote Link to post
jazz_11 5 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 personally i dont think its true. think of it as if you were good at something and you were teaching your child... lets say ..... rugby. and my dad was amazing and i was at a young age and he started showing me how to play and i got really good its not that i was born with the ability to play rugby, its just i started at a young age... and was shown.. i think thats a good example of how to think of it... (thats not a true story lol) they need to be shown how to do it. .on the other hand ferrets are hunters and will naturally hunt. cheers jazz Quote Link to post
droid 11 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 apparently the lines dont make much difference because a ferret has natural instinct to hunt but i think this is a load of bullshit Why do you think that? Quote Link to post
The one 8,545 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 personally i dont think its true. think of it as if you were good at something and you were teaching your child... lets say ..... rugby. and my dad was amazing and i was at a young age and he started showing me how to play and i got really good its not that i was born with the ability to play rugby, its just i started at a young age... and was shown.. i think thats a good example of how to think of it... (thats not a true story lol) they need to be shown how to do it. .on the other hand ferrets are hunters and will naturally hunt. cheers jazz I agree ferrets are hunters and will naturally hunt ,but then theres hunters and hunters .its not every ferret that will go deep and work a large warren properly some only mess about on the first layer of a burrow Quote Link to post
will.f11 24 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 apparently the lines dont make much difference because a ferret has natural instinct to hunt but i think this is a load of bullshit Why do you think that? Its not my words. I think I read about it somewhere! Quote Link to post
markieboi 0 Posted May 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 its like humans i think my grandad dad could be great at footie then theres me shit at all sports so i dont reckon its really true and as long as there brought on proply i think most ferrets make good workers Quote Link to post
sue 1 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 ive bred a few rubbish workers over the years and ive had rescued which have worked good Quote Link to post
The one 8,545 Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 ive bred a few rubbish workers over the years and ive had rescued which have worked good Maybe you rescued them because you will only lose a good worker the crap worker never go deep enough Quote Link to post
sue 1 Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 ive only took in rescued ferrets because i have a soft spot for them and ive taken them along when ive been ferreting just to see what they are like,and as for breeding some crap workers who hasnt not all ferrets are as good as others ,the rubbish workers are just kept as pets Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 there is only one way to breed a worker and that is to breed worker to worker so that you keep the hunting gene and other diserable traits so as to pass on to the kits you are breeding ... lets look at it this way ... do you see top class racing greyhound trainers attenting crufts so that they can secure a stud off the top greyhound there or do you see them queing in their droves at the door of the greyhound derby champion .... there is a reason for this which is quite obviously that the race greyhound has the traits needed to produce top class offspring and the show type doesnt ... it would be exactly the same as ferrets .... if i put my working hob over a working jill and a show bred ferret i will bet anybody any money you like that the resulting offspring from the worker to worker breeding would be far better workers than the worker to show lining ..... it aint rocket science it is all down to genes and diserable traits thats why people have line bred for hundereds of years dogs horses pigeons even humans which brings me to markieboi's statement ..... there was a study done a few years back as to why african americans are dominitating field and track sports in america and the findings discovered that a great many of the top athletes family lines were traced back to the southern states of america ... not unusual in itself but untill they also traced most of their ancestors as being cotton workers who braought over as slaves ...... the short version of the findings were that it was common practice by land owners of cotton farms to '' breed'' the strongest male worker to the strongest female worker thus producing strong children .... when they grew to be adults and proved their worth in the cotton fields they would be bred to another adult from a nother such ''breeding'' and so on and so on ...... the end ruslt were farms full of lean strong fit workers that had been ''line'' bred to do a certain job exactly the same practice as we employ to produce the best working animal ....... markieboi my last point is how do you bring on a ferret to be a good worker ??? all you can do is feed it well keep it healthy and give it an interesting life as it grows into a young adult .... once put that ferret to ground there is nothing you can do to influence the way it works and so it will either work well or it wont and there is nothing you can do about it ............ Quote Link to post
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