Guest Magwitch Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 if you cull at birth you might be knocking the good workers on the head and keeping the wankers. Link to post
Guest jojoamojo Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 well atleast id know it was going to die happy with me rather then get passed about in foriege surroundings giving it scares and frightening it to the point of death why the f**k would a rescue frighten it to death? Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 if you cull at birth you might be knocking the good workers on the head and keeping the wankers. if you have bred from a line of proven workers that go back at least 3 -5 generations then chances are they will all be good workers and if you do cull at birth you will never know if they were shit or brilliant and you will get on with what you have ....... Link to post
Guest bigredbusa Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 if you cull at birth you might be knocking the good workers on the head and keeping the wankers i wondered how long that would take and a fair point:) my ferrets are proven workers and i have no doubt that any offspring will work as hard as the parents , i am after smalish ferrets and want traits of the working mother (very small and never kills below) , thankfully i saw all 11 ferrets as they where born and all the larger ones died so im quite happy with what i have been left with . the guy who has taken the other two has seen the parents work and im pretty much 100% sure he would of not taken then if the parents where crap workers Link to post
droid 11 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 (edited) where have said i was refering to YOU ? your a little paranoid there mate .... i dont need to read all the posts to get the jist of the arguement its as plain as the nose on my face ..... i understand where you are coming from with preventative measures etc .... BUT i needed to breed 2 jills this year as they coming up to 6 ish and therefore dont have many seasons left in them and so i need young fresh blood to take over hence the reason for breeding them this year .... i am breeding purely for myself and the lads that i hunt for BUT what if i end up with to many kits am i supposed to bring them on only to sell them on for a piffly amount to people i know nothing about or would i be better culling the extra kits at birth and leaving the mother with an easily managable amount of kits that will grow strong and healthy and go to good working homes with people i know and trust ............. I understand your need to replace aging stock, but did you 'need' to breed two jills? I also accept your point about culling early. And remember: just cos you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you Edited May 24, 2008 by droid Link to post
droid 11 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 (edited) well put across socks , i do have a problem of putting myself across thru a keyboard and your thinking is exactly what i mean . A very good point. I must remember to moderate my posts ..... If I had, I'd have substituted the word 'thoughtless' for 'an idiot' Edited May 24, 2008 by droid Link to post
Meerihunter 7 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Exactly what about humanely culling day olds kits do folk have a problem with? Link to post
Kay 3,709 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Exactly what about humanely culling day olds kits do folk have a problem with? Exactly and all males as well Link to post
will.f11 24 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Exactly what about humanely culling day olds kits do folk have a problem with? I have nothing against it I just couldnt do it myself Link to post
Guest bigredbusa Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 what is it will , the thought of actually doing the deed itself ? when they are this young i dont see them as an adult ferts and as someone has already got all techy they dont feel anything Link to post
FUBAR 0 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Ok Richie I'M a c**t , so I'm useful. Link to post
Guest Magwitch Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 if you cull at birth you might be knocking the good workers on the head and keeping the wankers. if you have bred from a line of proven workers that go back at least 3 -5 generations then chances are they will all be good workers and if you do cull at birth you will never know if they were shit or brilliant and you will get on with what you have ....... but as i stated you may bang all the goodun's keep all the shite come ferreting season your left with the wankers now what do you do? Link to post
Guest jojoamojo Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 the problem people have is if you hadnt bred them you wouldnt have to kill them, really its not rocket science, no matter how 'ard you think you are, or how extreme you class yourself to be, it shouldnt be up to you what lives or dies i am sure between you all here you could arrange regionally to breed just what you need each year, rather than breed willy nilly and kill the ones YOU dont think will work, are you all psychic? what do you do with the ones who you crystal balled would work, then dont cut it? do they get a lump hammer over the head too? i wonder what the legalities of all this barbaric behaviour are? Link to post
Guest jojoamojo Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 if you cull at birth you might be knocking the good workers on the head and keeping the wankers. if you have bred from a line of proven workers that go back at least 3 -5 generations then chances are they will all be good workers and if you do cull at birth you will never know if they were shit or brilliant and you will get on with what you have ....... but as i stated you may bang all the goodun's keep all the shite come ferreting season your left with the wankers now what do you do? well obviously they would take them all down to their local rescue in a nice cat basket with a fleece blankie and let them all get adopted to naice pet homes with people who would look after them they get lumped, betcha pound to a f*****g penny Link to post
Meerihunter 7 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Ok, I'm not in any way getting at you, just trying to understand the feelings you have about it, what thoughts or feelings stop you from being able to do it? My own feelings are that of course I dislike doing it, however I dislike suffering and neglect more. In culling day old kits there is no hardship for the kits they barely there at all in any mental state then they gone just nothing, the hardship if any is ours to bare in carrying out the act. Exactly the same as when the day comes with your old ferret or dog, when quality of life is'nt there for them anymore and the need to keep them as part of your life because of attachment to them has to be put to the side you do what is right for them rather than yourself. I feel there is no great hardship in a ending life in calm stress free way, everytime you send your dog or ferret for surgery the are put out no different to being PTS to the animal invloved at the point that the go under, our attachment to these animal is what causes the problem with the idea of culling/pts. The animal involved is never aware, it doesn't understand. We need to put this attachment into perspective set against the issues of what future is available to the animal. Merely existing is is very different to living Link to post
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