crackdown on air rifles in the future??

[mark01856 7]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/20...89520-20425284/

 

nicked this off airgunbbs.

Edited May 22, 2008 by mark01856

[jamie g 17]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/20...89520-20425284/

 

nicked this off airgunbbs.

 

the muppets should be cracking down on the dickheads that miss use them not people that stick to the law.

if they did that then these dickheads would thing twice about doing silly things with air rifles.

 

its allways the people that stick to the law that get it in the neck

[mark01856 7]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/20...89520-20425284/

 

nicked this off airgunbbs.

 

the muppets should be cracking down on the dickheads that miss use them not people that stick to the law.

if they did that then these dickheads would thing twice about doing silly things with air rifles.

 

its allways the people that stick to the law that get it in the neck

 

Yes but that would be common sense

[badoosh 1]

same scenario as when they banned handguns

only affected the legal owners

and still not brought the gun crime down has it

every little wannabe gangsters got a gun

[countrycommando89 7]

the mirror is not the most reliable resource tbh but there must be some fire as theres smoke.

[SEAN3513 7]

similar article in this last weeks shooting times. scottish parliment are wanting to license guns in scotland but the british government say that gun control has to stay at westminster!!

 

plus if there was a licensing scheme in scotland and not in england.........how would you take your air gun over the border~???????

 

i think a relaxed version of the FAC is all that could be done....but as has already been said...if people want a gun they'll get one.

 

aren't drugs illeagal??????................i rest my case!!!

[ChrisJones 7,975]

This will be unpopular but I believe that airguns should be on ticket. Something similar to a shotgun for sub 12ft/lbs and no change for FAC. But how will any new law remove the massive amounts of airguns already in circulation? Anyone remember the Brocock ban? A law that shoved firearms underground in a way not seen since Dunblane!

 

I agree that if existing laws are enforced that it would make a difference. But they're not, and anything that can be done to get the average w*n*er to not have one has to be encouraged, in my opinion. You only have to look at some of the dumb f*** posts that appear on here, from time to time, to see that air gun crime is alive and well, in Britain today. I've lost count of how many posts I've removed, from people teaching others how to up the power in their rifles. You only have to look at this post to see how engrained it is, in our culture. Alot are at it. I've stopped counting how many rifles, that I've chronographed, that have been tweaked/tuned/upped/insert colourful euphemism here.

 

I've sourced this article from the BBC. It seems pretty even and dare I say accurate. It's also attached to the bottom of this post along with the Mirror article, incase they remove it from the WWW.

 

Gun control will always come down to the individual. Has Hungerford stopped gun crime. No. Has Dunblane stopped gun crime. No. Has the successive years of airgun legislation stopped gun crime. No and you only have to look at this forum to see that people intent on breaking the law, will. If I have to have a ticket for my airgun, I'll get one. I use it for my job. Will that stop people home tuning? Will it stop people poaching? Will it stop kids getting shot. Absolutely not.

 

If they want to tackle this kind of crime find out what is the underlying cause instead of writing a knee jerk piece of legislation, at our expense, that won't work.

 

As for media accuracy... was Rhys Jones killed with an airgun?

[masmiffy 82]

About it in a nutshell chris!

Gun crime will not be stopped by any law they bring in.

The laws they introduce will only ever affect the 'honest' owners.

[fin and fur 2]

it annoys me when i see further legislation either proposed or being brought into place to basically paper over the main issue which as usual goes unadressed

if you carry a knife are you going to stab someone with it ?, if you carry a rifle are you going to shoot someone with it ?

it is not ownership of the knife or the gun that is at issue it is what goes on inside the head of the person who is carrying it, it is what would make a person want to take a human life for absolutley no reason that is the issue, and politicans will always take the easy way out and pacify UK voters by introducing tighter restrictions/legislation on ownership of guns by decent law abiding people without actually bothering to sort out the real social issue of why an individual would want to harm another humanbeing because this would be far, far too much effort and when the general populus is crying out for an instant fix a vote hunting politician will always take the easy way out

sorry for the rant folks, but the way this and previous governments adress such issues really annoys me

[mark01856 7]

it annoys me when i see further legislation either proposed or being brought into place to basically paper over the main issue which as usual goes unadressed

if you carry a knife are you going to stab someone with it ?, if you carry a rifle are you going to shoot someone with it ?

it is not ownership of the knife or the gun that is at issue it is what goes on inside the head of the person who is carrying it, it is what would make a person want to take a human life for absolutley no reason that is the issue, and politicans will always take the easy way out and pacify UK voters by introducing tighter restrictions/legislation on ownership of guns by decent law abiding people without actually bothering to sort out the real social issue of why an individual would want to harm another humanbeing because this would be far, far too much effort and when the general populus is crying out for an instant fix a vote hunting politician will always take the easy way out

sorry for the rant folks, but the way this and previous governments adress such issues really annoys me

 

exactly.

 

if someone really wants to kill or hurt someone else they will do it regardless of having a knife or a gun.

[masmiffy 82]

Knife law is another sore point.

 

The current law says:

 

it is an offence to carry a knife in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket-knife with a blade not exceeding three inches. Those found guilty face a penalty of up to two years imprisonment. Possession of an offensive weapon without lawful authority or reasonable excuse carries a maximum penalty of 4 years imprisonment. Certain knives, such as flick-knives, are categorised as offensive weapons

manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives. This includes stealth knives, disguised knives and batons which were banned in 2002 and 2004

it is an offence to market a knife in a way which indicates that it is suitable for combat, or is otherwise likely to stimulate violent behaviour. The police have powers to stop and search for knives and offensive weapons, in certain circumstances.

The Violent Crime Reduction Bill, which is currently going through the House of Lords, contains measures which:

 

increase the age at which a person can be sold a knife from 16 to 18

introduce powers for head teachers to search pupils for knives and offensive weapons

create a new offence of using another person to mind a weapon, and includes an aggravating factor on sentencing if the person involved is a child.

 

 

 

No law against buying a 12" kitchen knife from Tescos is there?

[jamie g 17]

even if the bring something in it would put people off getting a ticket. the back log is bad as it is

in some countys for fac so what would it be like if they bring this in for standard air rifles !

[SEAN3513 7]

the real answer is to deal with the fuckwits (properly)..........that f**k it up for all us decent lads!!!!

 

and bring in a licensing scheme..............if only to give harder sentencing to anyone that dosn't have one!!

[celticwar 1]

in that artical the guy says if having it tighter law ie ticket for air rifles the shooting of his son could have been avoided

yes like hell it would ....if you have a ticket been out hunting and come home start cleaning your gun then think bugger i need a pee .. leave the gun there on the table . little one could still pick up shoot some one does not change ......lets face it people do leave it for that and putting kettle on ...

when i was a nipper i was taught by my dad gun control . ie never move the end of a barrel in any direction it could kill ever ..ect ect he had loads of rules ... i think they should take name adresses and check your id . just register your name at local cop shop that way they no whos got what . and what area that in it self would stop alot ......

 

and ive just moved into a new build the walls are carboard where would i put a gun safe ....

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

I've just moved into a new build the walls are carboard where would i put a gun safe ....

 

 

Bolted to the concrete floor is standard.