Drinking from puddles

[twins 0]

weils disease met a scaffolder last week doing his health and safety test, well he had to put a scaffold around a fountain dropped off the kit went to breakfast came back put up the scaffold Friday, monday morning felt like shit, flu symptoms body acheing but worse, went to the doc's she said where do you work,what do you do I'm a scaffolder and Friday I put a scaffold around a fountain well the doc went quick go to the hosp and have a blood test for leptospirosis don't worry only 10% of people catch it die and the last case I treated died, now he told me he never so much as had a scratch don't smoke didnt eat till he went home and showered, as soon as he got in doc said transmission can go stright through the skin if the rats piss is fresh, so it could have been the only way he caught it scary.

 

twins

[skycat 6,173]

Take a bottle of water with you wherever you go with your dogs: they'll learn to come to you when they are thirsty: its a matter of habit and training. Tell them to leave any water as Oneredtrim says.

You can actually buy a plastic bottle which fits inside a holder that dogs can drink from easily.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PBI-racpb18-Travel...e/dp/B000AYYOTO

 

Don't exercise dogs during the heat of the day in summer if they don't have access to water to swim in/cool down in and drink.

[abley 0]

Thanks alot Ditch. I reckon thats filled in the blanks for me. And I didnt know f**k all about the jab being next to useless!! Cheers everyone for your replies

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited May 19, 2008 by oneredtrim

[abley 0]

Take a bottle of water with you wherever you go with your dogs: they'll learn to come to you when they are thirsty: its a matter of habit and training. Tell them to leave any water as Oneredtrim says.

You can actually buy a plastic bottle which fits inside a holder that dogs can drink from easily.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PBI-racpb18-Travel...e/dp/B000AYYOTO

 

Don't exercise dogs during the heat of the day in summer if they don't have access to water to swim in/cool down in and drink.

Just had a look at that Skycat. It looks alright like. Theres space in the jacket for that I reckon. Thanks

[abley 0]

when the bottle is run dry the wee wans will drink the puddles. me missus gives them a slapping across the backside.

i swear to god i was waitin to see a reply off you jimbob your a fcukin head banger ,i dont know wether to laugh or ring social services

 

Call them off thier water with a chosen word at home when they gagging for it (wait till thier commited), fix the word and your half in for the same routine when out and about. Especially if you show them where you would prefer them to drink from.

 

I see the reason in what you're saying mate, but not sure I want me dog thinking it isn't ok to drink from her own bowl. No offense like

 

No offence taken our kid, on reflection i was rather having a lateral overload. If you've got a word fixed for the specific job of calling your dog away from a mouthfull in your gaff....then obviouslly you should be in with half a shout when transfering the move outdoors. When fixing the move indoors and getting some success the dog can be immediately sent back to the water bowl to collect the prize (the cementing of the word is only to come away), when outdoors the move can be refined by switching the prize to a water bottle or simply a more suitable drinking spot.

 

Ar right-oh. I dont think I got your drift first time around. I see what you're getting at now. Sometimes takes more than once wi me

[slickdicko 0]

Dogs always have and always will be Dogs. Whilst some of their habits and likings are definately not to be encouraged, they can be a bugger to stop. One of mine here, le Ding, simply has to take a refreshing draught from the ditch at the top of my track. And that 130 yards after he's left his clean and permanently available bowl of filtered water! I would say, 'God knows what goes in that ditch.' Only I probably know pretty well myself. Not much. It is just field run off and the firlds in question see no dressings. But there are rats around there. What's a man to do? Tie the Dog up for ever and feed it only tap water?

 

Regards a Dog being 'vaccinated against' Weils disease or not? That's just a complete crock of shit. The " Vaccination " against Weils disease covers only a couple of strains. There are over a hundred out there. It also only acts against the strains it's supposed to cover for a few months from time of injection. If more people really gave a true toss about their Dogs, they'd take the time to study and digest the PDF I've made available in the above, locked Post. But that'd take an evening or two to take in. It's much easier to bray; " I care and I Know! ". Sure ye do. Dog has almost as much chance of dying from a " Booster " jab as from Weils Disease. But ye'd all know That already

 

Here's a Fact for ye all; With the climatic changes we've been seeing, Weils Disease in on the up. That's because the bacteria which cause it thrive in still, warm water. This can be anything from a puddle to a lake to a patch of dew wetted grass.

 

These bacteria are carried in the systems of maybe 75% of rats. Pregnancy? Crock of shit. Sorry. The rat can be either gender, any age and the fittest, cleanest looking rat ye ever did see. Nothing to do with sewer rats, city rats or even clean living country hedgerow rats. Just Rats. It doesn't effect them, but it can sure as hell effect you and ye Dogs. And guess what? It actually has damn all to do with rat bites. Dog doesn't have to have seen a rat in its life to get it.

 

What to do? Read between the lines and ye'll see there's precious little we can do, realisticly. But here's Ditchy's Top Tips:

 

Try to dissuade ye Dogs from lapping puddles and keep them out of that temptingly refreshing pond during the warmer weather. If ye going out for a while with them? Carry a bottle of chilled water and something to offer it in. They even do proper little hikeing kits these days.

 

Don't be so stupid and gullably ill informed, through ye own fault, as to think a white coats jab is worth shit where Weils Disease is concerned. It isn't. Period.

 

Be Aware of ye Dogs. Get one acting depressed, throwing up, just not seeming right to you within a week or two of possible exposure to a risk of Weils Disease? Get it the f*ck to the vets and voice ye concerns. Ask for a blood test.

 

Remember This: In humans there is an inccubation period of a week or two before this b*stard shows its hand. I expect it's the same for Dogs. Go ratting this sunday? Fine. You or ye Dog start feeling like shit come tuesday week? Get it checked! An avalaunche of antibiotics is ye only hope. There's No 'home cures' and no one on here can get ye anything for it, even by PM. That goes for you and ye Dog both.

 

Believe me; Without diagnosis and correctly administered medication and nursing care, Weils Disease is a Vile disease. It's a ghastly way to go.

 

Oh; And it's Zoonotic; transmissable between an infected animal (ye Dog) and humans. You get it and You become infectious too. That's why it's a Notifiable Disease.

 

 

Now sit and ponder; How come I know so much about this f*cker .....

internet google... but really i read it twice as i could grasp the meaning of ye! but now i get it..

very informative pal like the post i let my dogs drink whatever they want (with a few exceptions to manky ponds puddles) and have done for years.

like you said its a unlikely chance of catching weils as dieing from a booster.

if im out all day hot sun im diveing in what i find..

you know your stuff pal and im taking what you say onbord but next well stop feeding the dogs battery chickens....

 

dicko

[sandymere 8,263]

A lttle info on this site.

http://bullterriers.co.uk/html/vaccinations.html

[Tracy36 0]

I was told or read, not to let them drink out of puddles near roads or where could be comtaminated with car crap pollution, petrol etc

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

A lttle info on this site.

http://bullterriers.co.uk/html/vaccinations.html

 

 

" a new vaccine has been produced for dogs which is guaranteed to last for at least one year and may last two. "

 

Our 'Ozzie' was told of such a vaccine by her vet. I asked for further details and nothing ever came of it, as I remember. Now I hear it again on that undated, uncited BT site. Not knocking anyone or thing, just questioning such 'information'.

 

I wonder; Could this 'new, wonder vaccine' people are passing the buzz of be " Nobivac Lepto 2 " ? That one's said to Not make ye Dog an Active, Walking Vector (By that I mean that other vaccines effectively Give ye Dog a mild but transferable case of Lepto. F*cked if I'd want such a thing around me then! Dog's pissing Weils Disease!).

 

Either way, Nobivac 2 is a crock too; They base their 'scientific data' on the results of just SIX individual Dogs.

 

That's a bit like testing half a dozen rats, finding those to be of the odd few that don't carry Lepto' and, from that sample, declaring rats Do Not carry Weils Disease.

 

Up to the individual who or what they trust. Personally? My Dogs trust me implicitly. With their lives. I try to stay well enough properly informed to take life or death decisions on their behalf. I feel they're worth that extra bit of effort

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Now sit and ponder; How come I know so much about this f*cker .....

 

youv'e had it before haven't you ditchy? i seem to recall you mentioning it in a previous post

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

I have indeed, mate. Due to the incompetent arrogance of my then GP, it got to run its full course on me too.

 

Ye can believe me when I say; That sort of suffering gives one a lifelong and Very keen interest in such matters.

[alimac 882]

would be more concerned with run off from surrounding fields pesticides, herbisides etc .. i take a bottle out with me, along with half a "penny floater" football to use as a dish, folds up small enough to put in ya pocket too

[blacktabs 3]

Ive known farmers put stuff in ditches and puddles never mind run off was out one day and a mates dog went and sat in and drank a load of battery acid not good .

Running water or a bottle everytime

[sauer 2]

my uncle lost a dog coz of rats urine in puddles weils disease ...total renal-kidney failure

 

 

so defo not out o puddles for me

 

 

 

sauer