marco 24 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 as iv,e been fetched up coursing i didn,t learn the art of lamping fox,but now when im trying to pursue this quarry i can,t seem to get them in close enough.im calling them and they are coming in but i can only get them in to about 100 yards,do i need a red filter?im just wondering if any of you more experienced lads could help me,cheers marco Quote Link to post
dickyboy 1 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Only done it to shotgun but have had them in pretty close! don't keep the light on all the time, keep down wind. And practice your sounds. it personnal preference but i squeal loud to get attention but i reckon it sounds shit so once attention is gained i quieten down and use quality not volume. also i sometimes use mouse like squeaks if in an area where there isn't much rabbit hare etc. I practiced on the foxes in my road and the local cats. helps to get a feeling what sounds work best. then adapt. i had a fox jump up onto the side of my car and put its head in the window!!! that made me jump i can tell ya!! Some people might disagree but i hope i helped!! Quote Link to post
Kane 2 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Make sure youve got cover behind you to break up your outline,if no cover try crouching down as the fox gets closer aim off with the lamp (dont keep him centre of the beam).Keep quiet as the fox gets close make sure your not fumbling about for anything Like a camera(ask Jordan). Quote Link to post
marco 24 Posted January 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Only done it to shotgun but have had them in pretty close! don't keep the light on all the time, keep down wind. And practice your sounds. it personnal preference but i squeal loud to get attention but i reckon it sounds shit so once attention is gained i quieten down and use quality not volume. also i sometimes use mouse like squeaks if in an area where there isn't much rabbit hare etc. I practiced on the foxes in my road and the local cats. helps to get a feeling what sounds work best. then adapt. i had a fox jump up onto the side of my car and put its head in the window!!! that made me jump i can tell ya!! Some people might disagree but i hope i helped!! cheers d.b it sounds as though i need to practice on my calling methods,i wouldn,t care i bought a wooden fox caller but it sounds like a goose trying lay a house brick i must be blowing to hard. Make sure youve got cover behind you to break up your outline,if no cover try crouching down as the fox gets closer aim off with the lamp (dont keep him centre of the beam).Keep quiet as the fox gets close make sure your not fumbling about for anything Like a camera(ask Jordan). now kane that makes sense just keeping the fox to the side of the beam,im try to blind the little critter.do i have to leave the lamp on continuasely or do i keep knocking it off and then call? Quote Link to post
Guest mucker Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 also need to have your dog steady when calling it in, any other noise when sqeaking and it will be off. cant beat the red filter...... Quote Link to post
Jordan 1 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 wont happen again kane i thought you were going to deck me that night lol Quote Link to post
Guest hareman Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 make sure everthing is behind the lamp and still i dont shine the lamp right at the fox keep it to side so u just see the eyes it works 4 me iv had them on me toes Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Its hard to say where you are going wrong without knowing whether the foxes are already lamp/squeak shy.Personally ,I shine the beam at their feet out at a distance and use the work light on the clulite as they get closer,say 60yds.you dont need much light to see fox eyes at this range.When first spotted I do my best to get downwind of them even if it means a tiptoe of 50yds.Like someone said before I make the first few calls loud to get the foxes attention and then quiet down as charlie aproaches.Ive found if you squeal loudly at a close fox he will be off regardless of whether he was committed or not.Some people switch the lamp off as he comes in but I prefer to keep the dim beam on ,not only to track the incoming fox but you can also see any other eyes in the outskirts of the beam from other foxes attracted by the squeal.These may provide a better slip.One trick I have learnt is to catch a rabbit early in the night and paunch it ,hang it on your belt and any foxes getting downwind of you smell that ,driving them ontowards you.You need to be out in the middle of a field really as if your next to a hedge,charlie will nine times out of ten go straight through the nearby hedge and loose the dog,As said before ,crouch down out in the field and if your dog gets too exited by the prospect of a kill,put the lamp on the floor ,facing the oncoming fox and cover the dogs eyes.Flick on the full beem when charlie is in range and enjoy! Quote Link to post
Kane 2 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 now kane that makes sense just keeping the fox to the side of the beam,im try to blind the little critter.do i have to leave the lamp on continuasely or do i keep knocking it off and then call? For the moment keep the lamp on ,when you and the dog get a bit more experianced you will be able to tell which foxes are acting a bit suspicious and need the lamp off just to reassure them. Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 now kane that makes sense just keeping the fox to the side of the beam,im try to blind the little critter.do i have to leave the lamp on continuasely or do i keep knocking it off and then call? For the moment keep the lamp on ,when you and the dog get a bit more experianced you will be able to tell which foxes are acting a bit suspicious and need the lamp off just to reassure them. Its the suspicious foxes that need watching! .If at all interested they may run in while the lamp is off and you have missed the chance of a run.They will not linger nearby while the lamper swings the lamp round looking for them .All you will see is the back of charlie running away or worst still and the most frustrating for the lurchermen ,the fox may of reteated to a safe distance and just sit there ,ignoring every type of call.Keep the lamp on as Ive seen many fresh foxes come in unexpectedly.Use the red filter only after the foxes have got used to the white light .Going straight in with the red means you have nothing to fall back on when they get a bit wary.Varying the call works for me too. Quote Link to post
Kane 2 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 You can tell by the replies on here that you will have to get out and see what works for you in your area best . Quote Link to post
Paul739 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 got myself a fox call last year and played with it for a while but found it was a bit loud when i blew it to get the noise i preferred, after playing around with it a bit i found if i sucked in from the other end the noise was higher pitched and more life like, i've been to busy to get out with it as i'm just starting the dog off lamping this year and she's a bit young for foxes but i'm off out with a mate and his 222 next week so i'll see how we get on with it regards P Quote Link to post
Guest hareman Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 make sure everthing is behind the lamp and still i dont shine the lamp right at the fox keep it to side so u just see the eyes it works 4 me iv had them on me toes at my toe's scary.. Me and me [bANNED TEXT] where lamping with the rimmy one nite he was shooting and i had the lamp i called in one fox but it stopped out of range ,at the same time an other fox was coming in from the left as we turned our attention to him.. i started to call him, but out of the corner of my eye there was a badger about 2 feet from my feet it got too close for comfort, so i had to give it a bit of a kick at that point me [bANNED TEXT] shot the fox . i was only wearing me trainer's that nite thought i was going to get me feet chewed we were at a golf course once were we had scene them started calling flicked the lamp on and there was seven with in 25 feet they were every were killed 1 and there was still 2 with in 25 feet feet not jokeing Quote Link to post
marco 24 Posted January 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 You can tell by the replies on here that you will have to get out and see what works for you in your area best . kane i,m bad to get out now but the land right outside my house where i have permission and where i intend to hunt has a shoot on tommorrow so i will have to wait until tommorrow night which i suppose could be an advantage with injured and left pheasent carcases.but iv,e took all in and thanks lads,marco Quote Link to post
dickyboy 1 Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I reckon market squeakers are shite just squeak of your fingers!!!!! Quote Link to post
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