Rolfe 2 Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Just thought i would show my portable kania set-up i use to control the greys in woodland areas. There are NO reds in my area......so i can safely use spring traps........If you live in an area that has red and grey squirrels then only cages should be used for obvious reasons. By bolting the Kania to a board, i can move the trap around the woods to favourite trees as and when required, each tree having a nail pre-fixed to hang the trap on. It also makes it so much easier to set the trap....as it can be lifted down and set whilst on the floor. Note.......the wire mesh fitted to the lower half of the board to make it easier for the squirrel to enter the trap. Quote Link to post
john b 38 Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Rolfe, I have just deployed one exactly like that on a tree where I've been asked to deal with a squirrel problem. To be fair I built it following a description given on here before - probably my you I expect. The only difference is that I have added a mesh tunnel on the bottom half of the board too, as I understood that was a legal requirement for the Kanias. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1995/Uksi_19952427_en_2.htm Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Rolfe knows that... the tunnel is obscured by the camera angle. Quote Link to post
john b 38 Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Ah, mybe that's it. I wondered if perhaps it had been removed for the pic an Rolfe had forgotten to mention it. It's worth highlighting though - I didn't realise myself until recently, but luckily I hadn't had any Kanias at that point. Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 377 Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 I was a little confused by your posts above but I have sussed it now - why would you need to fit an additional tunnel to what is effectively a purpose made cubby set killer trap? The Kania 2500 has no cubby and is designed to fit into a tunnel made for the purpose in accordance with the AO BUT The Kania 2000 (as used by Rolfe there) was was designed as a standalone set-up and every picture I have seen of it set or having sprung have no shown need for such a tunnel to be fitted - including those shown by the manufacturer or UK distributor. http://www.magnumtrap.com/kania.html Mystery solved?? OTC Quote Link to post
john b 38 Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Mystery solved?? OTC nope That's what I use to think, but look at the link. It states Kania 2000 Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 377 Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Mystery solved?? OTC nope That's what I use to think, but look at the link. It states Kania 2000 I am still not convinced but it does say in black and white there - you're right I don't have the latest AO amend at hand - is it still the same on there?? OTC Quote Link to post
john b 38 Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 The 2007 ? It adds the 2500 on there with the same stipulation but ofcoures the AO only show the changes, don't repeat what has gone before. The AO before that (1997 was it ?) isn't on line anywhere Just to be clear, this isn't any kind of personal crusade on this I just want to make sure we're giving people the right info. Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 377 Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Just to be clear, this isn't any kind of personal crusade on this No me neither John but it doesn't seem quite right to me for some reason . . . I will look into it this week and report any findings I make OTC Quote Link to post
Matt 160 Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 The STAO has been clear on this since the trap was first approved in 1995. The trap must be set with an artificial tunnel to reduce the risk of non-target captures and guide the target onto the kill zone. I happen to know that NE are actively seeking a prosecution on this very subject. The box at the rear of the trap is to contain bait, not restrict access. Hence the condition. Maybe Chalkwarren could comment as he did the original field trials. I have one here, very similar to the set up that Rolfe has shown, but with a tunnel on it. I'll get some pics and post when I can. The 2500 is a different beast, which is designed more as a 'run through' (with a tunnel). I would strongly advise anyone using Kania 2000 traps to comply with the relevant legislation and fit a tunnel. Quote Link to post
snareman 3 Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Just thought i would show my portable kania set-up i use to control the greys in woodland areas. There are NO reds in my area......so i can safely use spring traps........If you live in an area that has red and grey squirrels then only cages should be used for obvious reasons.By bolting the Kania to a board, i can move the trap around the woods to favourite trees as and when required, each tree having a nail pre-fixed to hang the trap on. It also makes it so much easier to set the trap....as it can be lifted down and set whilst on the floor. Note.......the wire mesh fitted to the lower half of the board to make it easier for the squirrel to enter the trap. rolfe is there no lugs on the back of these kanias now , as the very first ones that i was sent from calvin kania in canada have the lugs at the back , you just turn them up and put a nail through them , thats how they are used in canada , this holds them to the tree and eliminates any additions , another good point about the lugs are when trapping mink , if you bend a wire hoop and push the legs through the lugs this stabilizes the trap to the ground and stops foxes rolling the trap around with the dead mink , this is why i used the wire hoop as i nearly lost a trap in deep water due to a fox, that fox taught me a lesson and saved me a lot of money , otherwise i would have thought that the trap had been stolen and been none the wiser . Quote Link to post
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