PERMISSION?

[MikeTheDog 153]

they want all the game for themselves and gamekeepers and farmers always have a few mates that will be into the sport that they can trust and that so they will always let them on there land

 

 

More like they don't want all and sundry letting off rounds on their land. If I want to go shooting on the estates I hunt on I need to call the keeper to check it's OK. Just imagine if I went on as and when I wanted without bothering to check, some other lads may be out with rimmys or stalking roe...that's how accidents happen. Some keepers don't like lampers on their land because they get disturbed when a neighbour calls them in the early hours telling him they've seen lights over the fields. You gotta look at things from both angles guys ....Like someone said, just go and lamp the fields and move about quick.

[Guest Frank]

Frank as you well know, over here its an open field, never once been stopped or ran of land, Irish farmers are the best in the world, so easy going and willing to help out at any time.

 

We are so luckly over here.

 

Totally agree IL. Just this evening, i rang up a farmer who i havent seen in a while, to ask if i could lamp my dogs, as before, i just used a rifle, but want to use the dogs now.

He said no problem and asked if i could take as many as i could.

[Stevebeno 0]

Its always been the same everywere, knock on doors doint say you got a dog and you are ok,

knock on doors and say you have a dog[ and say a lurcher] you have no feckin chance

Ive always said in hunting , after 25years+ there is them and there is us.

It will never change

 

BIRD

 

 

I find its any kind of hunting mate. we knock the door the reply is 'we already have someone comming up' then we look over the rape fields which are covered in pigeons and destroyed and as for the amount of rabbits its untrue...!

[Guest Frank]

Its always been the same everywere, knock on doors doint say you got a dog and you are ok,

knock on doors and say you have a dog[ and say a lurcher] you have no feckin chance

Ive always said in hunting , after 25years+ there is them and there is us.

It will never change

 

BIRD

 

Thats a shame, seems all the rich ect, own all the land in the Uk and dont want anyone on their what so ever?...

Do you think aswell, its a case of their is a lot of folk already lamping ect on the land?

Sort of first come first serve thing?

What about leaving a card with them ect?

[pipi 15]

Ive always found gaining permission relatively easy.Drive to your intended place dressed smart DO NOT SMOKE always start with sorry to bother you! watch your p's and q's.Once you get one farm move on to the other and mention you have pemish next door.Then you find it easier getting neighbouring farms.I always pay each of my keepers/farms a visit around christmas and drop them a bottle of whisky thanking them for letting me on there land.Always remember politeness pays off and always go on your own when asking.

[Guest joe ox]

Very difficult due to some like the poster just below you,people might have a different attitude to poaching someone elses permission if it happened to them.We are hanging in there fighting the ban all the way and we have to contend with people inside our sport just to make it harder.It took me years of knocking on doors and many refusals ,before I built up my patch ,then you get dummies just decide to turn up ,sometimes they dont even walk the ground ,just drive around in a 4x4.But then they arent field sports people imo.

 

inan my old sparring partner, are you saying people who poach are not proper field sports people?

Edited May 1, 2008 by joe ox

[Guest SHOT]

was called out to a place last week with the terriers mostly arable, farmer said leave the rabbits and hare alone as they dont bother me.

he told us there were travellers on his land regular and hes give up on them as they know were he lives so leaves them be .

lot of farmers i come across despise running dogs one of the hardest of permissions to gain i found.

[kent scotty 0]

its very hard here i have been trying in a 30 mile radius for years to shoot on shotty or air but no joy!! its because there is a businessthat runs pigeon days and they buy up all the permission round here!

 

its also the hassle farmers round here get from kids with air guns or dogs etc!it puts them off letting any one on as they never know its you or someone else so they would rather not bother!

 

im from a farming familey but as most of the land is owned by big land owners it dont help!! as for lamping its very hard to do it round here with out permission as old bill soon turns up and usualy in force suspecting the big gangs they even use the chopper i seen it!!

 

 

scotty(that said its not that it cant be done )

[Stevebeno 0]

Ive always found gaining permission relatively easy.Drive to your intended place dressed smart DO NOT SMOKE always start with sorry to bother you! watch your p's and q's.Once you get one farm move on to the other and mention you have pemish next door.Then you find it easier getting neighbouring farms.I always pay each of my keepers/farms a visit around christmas and drop them a bottle of whisky thanking them for letting me on there land.Always remember politeness pays off and always go on your own when asking.

 

with regards to your comments above i have always gone about it in that manor being polite ect... however no such luck so far i will keep try though. i am only 22yrs of age so maybe my age stands against me??? i find that in this buisness its not how good, polite, keen, trustworthy ect... you are its simply who you know.the land which i am fortunate to hunt over are friends of the family ect.

[bird 9,873]

Its always been the same everywere, knock on doors doint say you got a dog and you are ok,

knock on doors and say you have a dog[ and say a lurcher] you have no feckin chance

Ive always said in hunting , after 25years+ there is them and there is us.

It will never change

 

BIRD

 

Thats a shame, seems all the rich ect, own all the land in the Uk and dont want anyone on their what so ever?...

Do you think aswell, its a case of their is a lot of folk already lamping ect on the land?

Sort of first come first serve thing?

What about leaving a card with them ect?

 

Frank, they just doint want a lurcher on the ground, eg i went to farmer one day, i had good gear

on and was polite. And doint forget iam 55, and i have been around a bit and i know how to talk

to people. I asked if he had a rabbit problem, that i could do it for him day or night. And could

show him refs from other farms were i went. I said ferreting for the day, and lamp for night.

He said do you use a gun with the lamp, i said i use a dog because it is more safe in the night

if he as live stock, i say that some times it might work . He said a dog is a waste of

time, and a bloke with a gun does them. And he said lurchers are no match for a gun, plus they

are unsafe with stock. Frank this is what you are up against

 

BIRD

[Guest Frank]

No wonder their so many that poach then Bird...

That would put me right off..

 

What about the north of England and parts of Scotland, where rabbit numbers are high?

Is it easier up their, as the farmers must have a real problem with the bunnys..??

Edited May 2, 2008 by Frank

[inan 841]

Very difficult due to some like the poster just below you,people might have a different attitude to poaching someone elses permission if it happened to them.We are hanging in there fighting the ban all the way and we have to contend with people inside our sport just to make it harder.It took me years of knocking on doors and many refusals ,before I built up my patch ,then you get dummies just decide to turn up ,sometimes they dont even walk the ground ,just drive around in a 4x4.But then they arent field sports people imo.

 

inan my old sparring partner, are you saying people who poach are not proper field sports people?

I was referring to the drive by cowboys actually Joe. Have you permission Joe? If so how do you feel when you get there and find someone else on it ? Some of my land is 2 hrs drive from me,I really chuckle when I see some numpty walking around playing lighthouses on it ,apart from a wasted night I have the real chance of losing the ground .A friend of mine has some good ground for daytime stuff,he approached the Keeper for lamping,feeling pretty confident we would get it,its crawling with Bunnies,the keeper said no ,he has gangs of idiots after the deer ,what do they use? Rifles ,dogs ? No Cross Bows! Keep training Joe you might find it comes in handy when you run into some poacher on your permission!

[Guest joe ox]

I was referring to the drive by cowboys actually Joe. Have you permission Joe? If so how do you feel when you get there and find someone else on it ? Some of my land is 2 hrs drive from me,I really chuckle when I see some numpty walking around playing lighthouses on it ,apart from a wasted night I have the real chance of losing the ground .A friend of mine has some good ground for daytime stuff,he approached the Keeper for lamping,feeling pretty confident we would get it,its crawling with Bunnies,the keeper said no ,he has gangs of idiots after the deer ,what do they use? Rifles ,dogs ? No Cross Bows! Keep training Joe you might find it comes in handy when you run into some poacher on your permission!

 

I dont think the training I do will make me affective against a Cross Bow

[inan 841]

I was referring to the drive by cowboys actually Joe. Have you permission Joe? If so how do you feel when you get there and find someone else on it ? Some of my land is 2 hrs drive from me,I really chuckle when I see some numpty walking around playing lighthouses on it ,apart from a wasted night I have the real chance of losing the ground .A friend of mine has some good ground for daytime stuff,he approached the Keeper for lamping,feeling pretty confident we would get it,its crawling with Bunnies,the keeper said no ,he has gangs of idiots after the deer ,what do they use? Rifles ,dogs ? No Cross Bows! Keep training Joe you might find it comes in handy when you run into some poacher on your permission!

 

I dont think the training I do will make me affective against a Cross Bow

No, I think you would be affected by a crossbow bolt ,I have a lump of something heavy in my 4x4,I tell anyone interested,its a priest for game,well thats,partly true,its for Charlie,but also handy for Wallies too.