Old council Rubbish tip??

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Thing is, mate, with so many variables? All I, or anyone else here, can really do for ye is unravel certain points which are cast in stone ~ such as the relevent bits of statute.

 

But who can say, with surety, how the combined minds of who ever makes up that local council may work?

 

Let me just summarise it for ye:

 

They can grant ye the permission. No law saying they can't. And it's their permission to grant too. Ok?

 

Question remains; Would they choose to grant ye that available permission?

 

Only one way to find out, mate. And this place isn't that way.

[LOGUNSOLO177 0]

Yea cheers for all the help mate! I do intend to contact the council just wanted some ideas on what approach to take, Dont want to leave anything to chance!

[shaun22 0]

Here the rabbits on the council golf course and a big graveyard are controlled by shooting.

 

Both are shot only at night/dawn and are always closed to the public by locking the gates etc. outside normal hours. Liability insurance is mandatory and its bloody hard to get on the (very short) list of permitted people.

 

Just a thought, but I'm not sure I would want to eat a rabbit that has fed on plants growing in landfill. On some housing estates built on recent landfill your not supposed to grow your own veg because of contamination of the soil.

[LOGUNSOLO177 0]

How hard would it be to get liability insurance and would it be worth it??

[davyt63 1,845]

  LOGUNSOLO177 said:

How hard would it be to get liability insurance and would it be worth it??

hi logun

go to BASA liability is £ 19.95 per year hope this helps.

 

davy

[LOGUNSOLO177 0]

  davyt63 said:

  LOGUNSOLO177 said:

How hard would it be to get liability insurance and would it be worth it??

hi logun

go to BASA liability is £ 19.95 per year hope this helps.

 

davy

 

Cheers davy!! Helps me out quite alot mate!!

 

I will be contacting the council next week last chance to suggest a good approach and help a fellow air gunner in need!! hahaha!!

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Do you have any permission on any of the adjoining land? The council will be more likely to return your correspondence if you're performing a vermin control service on neighbouring property, and their land is contributing to an ongoing problem.

 

If you approach it as vermin control, rather than sport, you'll probably get more response.

[LOGUNSOLO177 0]

Good thinking Thanks!! I will try and find out which farmer owns the adjacent land and offer my services to him.

[RatSnatcher 0]

I dont think you have got a chance in hell of shooting on this council owned land, listen to Ditchy .....

 

 

Your best bet is to search out some farms

[bullmastiff 615]

  Ditch_Shitter said:

Pests Act. 1954. They, as Land Owners, are obliged to sort those rabbits out, or else get them sorted out. Otherwise they'll have to write themselves a letter Demanding they do it. If they still don't do it? Then they can send themselves in and do it themselves. Promptly delivering themselves a huge bill for their own services. If they don't pay that? They can expect to see themselves taking themselves to court for its recovery. That, of course, would mean they'd be even further out of pocket as they'd have to pay their own court costs following the prosecution of themselves by themselves. But they could have the satisfaction of knowing they'd shown themselves and that they'd think twice before trying that stroke on with themselves again!

 

Ditchy you've managed to encompass the total Hypocrisy of local politic's in one Paragraph! Classic!!!

 

Logunsolo - As has been said, their are lists of trusted pest controller's (not all are proffessional) that the Council will use. A simple letter with referances (gun club, local farmer etc) to the correct person may well get you on that list?? and if not ask what will?, also speak to the surrounding farmers about pest control, if theirs that many rabbits then the surrounding area should be stocked high! then there's no faffing around with red tape just a simple permission letter then get on with it.

 

If nothing comes from the council I'm sure their would be a lot of people on here willing to take their dog for a walk with you!!!

[LOGUNSOLO177 0]

some good points there mate cheers. Me and my mate will be meeting with the local farmer who owns the adjacent land some time this coming week and if all goes well I can secure that permission and use the line that the rabbit problem from the old tip is affecting the farmers land and see what happens.

[ChrisJones 7,975]

  RatSnatcher said:

I dont think you have got a chance in hell of shooting on this council owned land, listen to Ditchy .....

 

 

Your best bet is to search out some farms

I disagree. If you can approach them with a language they understand they can be quite accommodating. As Ditch said, learn about the 54 Pests Act, before contacting the council's environmental health department. Approach it as though you're a professional rather than a sportsmen.

 

Your local council have a legal obligation to control any vermin on their land. They might not be aware of the problem and even if they are won't usually act until someone has melted the phone with complaints.

 

If Logun is providing a pest control service to the neighbouring land, and approaches the council about neglecting their legal duties he'll be in a much better position to offer his services to them. Some councils have their own pest control departments but not all of them deal with rabbit control, it still is a legal requirement, however. Knowledge of how things work will significantly increase your chances of having a crack at them.

 

Be as professional as you can. Type your letters and highlight their obligations in plain English. If you're not so good with spelling and grammar get someone to help you with it. You probably will need to provide method statements and risk assessments so including a trapping program even if 99% of what you're doing is shooting. Don't be afraid to offer a regular service program (say monthly visits) for a small fee. Detail what this would involve. The council will shy away from anything they perceive to be amateur. This could effect your liability insurance though, from BASC.

 

If they knock you back don't worry. Keep an eye on the situation and approach them again in a month if nothing has been done. Then a month after that... and so on.

 

Don't poach the land. While this goes without saying they will prosecute you if you bring a problem to their attention and then trespass.

[RatSnatcher 0]

Still cant see it Chris to much red tape......

 

Business Public liability... if your going to not look like a amatuer

Full risk assesment, at a guess this will also require a meeting with the council at the proposed shooting site....

to cover complete Health & safety due to the rubbish that may be on the site also.....supposing someone they authorises to go on the site hurts and injures themselves on for instance and old bit of iron sticking out of the ground or cuts themselves on some discarded broken glass......I just cant see it myself.

 

I am not trying to put a downer on the idea but a local council is under a lot more red tape than old farmer giles's rabbit infested farm up the road. I do work for the council and they require me to have £8million public liability cover.

 

But good luck with it Logun solo, I hope it all works out and you get a freezer full of rabbits mate

[ChrisJones 7,975]

I won't bullshit. It's not the easiest thing to do and alot will depend on the local authority he's applying to. I've found knowing what your talking about helps, as does having neighbouring land with a knock on problem. I have managed to sub contract a bit of work this way, in the past, and it can be quite profitable.

 

I went to the council, representing my clients, and told them it needed sorting. I was ignored for a couple of months but I persisted. In the end I met with the environmental health officer, who surveyed their problem, and as their own pest controllers weren't in a position to sort it I gave him a price. 3 weeks later I received a phone call and was authorised to proceed. I priced for a cull and followed up with monthly visits for a further 3 months. They accepted but never renewed after I carried out the treatment, although the problem was significantly reduced.

 

It won't be easy to get the work but it can be done. Just be sure of what you're saying when you approach them and present that information in a way they can understand. Threat of court action from a neighbour is usually enough.

 

Of course if he gets no joy at all the neighbours will be having problems for a long time... target them as well.