ironman andy 0 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 The question that I am about to ask has been puzzling me for some time now. Why do we use Foot/Pounds as a measurement of pellet power? As an engineer, I know Foot/Pound, (Newton/ Meters in metric), is a measurement of Torque! WARNING GEEK STUFF BELOW! In physics, a torque is a vector that measures the tendency of a force to rotate an object about some axis (center). The magnitude of a torque is defined as force times the length of the lever arm. Just as a force is a push or a pull, a torque can be thought of as a twist. The SI unit for torque is Newton meters (N m). In U.S. customary units, it is measured in foot pounds (ft/lbf) So, how can that be relevant to a pellet being projected from a muzzle of a gun? Surly the velocity (feet per second) is the relevant measurement, so why is Ft/Lbs still used? It is like me measuring a length of steel and saying it’s 27degrees Celsius long!! It doesn’t make sense. If a power measurement is needed then I think it should be Joules! I feel better for getting that off my chest, tell me your thoughts. Ironman Quote Link to post
SEAN3513 7 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 air rifles are rated in ft/lbs and joules.............i think but dont quote me 12 ft lbs = 15 joules. i know it dosn't answer your question but m sure someone will offer more info in due course. all the best sean Quote Link to post
shaun22 0 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 As an engineer, I know Foot/Pound, (Newton/ Meters in metric), is a measurement of Torque!............................ If a power measurement is needed then I think it should be Joules! But isn't 1 Joule the same as 1 Newton/Meter? And aren't ft/lb, joules and N/M all measurements of translational kinetic energy? Quote Link to post
Coney 3 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Could be wrong but always thought 16 joules = 12 ft lbs. Quote Link to post
SEAN3513 7 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 i stand corrected..................wasn't dead sure!!!! thanks coney Quote Link to post
SEAN3513 7 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 just for the info..........ft/lbs x 1.355817 = joules therfore 12 ft/lbs = 16.269804 joules no i'm not an anorak, just like to understand stuff ( coney, top of the class) all the best sean Quote Link to post
Coney 3 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 just for the info..........ft/lbs x 1.355817 = joules therfore 12 ft/lbs = 16.269804 joules no i'm not an anorak, just like to understand stuff ( coney, top of the class) all the best sean Cheers mate. Quote Link to post
grasshopper 0 Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 I never thought much about that before! very interesting! :-) Quote Link to post
ironman andy 0 Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 I can see my error in thinking ft/lbs only being tortional energy Here is the wikipedia definition of a Joule: "One joule is the work done, or energy expended, by a force of one newton moving one meter along the direction of the force. This quantity is also denoted as a newton metre with the symbol N/m. Note that torque also has the same units as work, but the quantities are not the same. " Cheers to all ironman. Quote Link to post
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