Guest bigredbusa Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 robert the bruce was called braveheart because when he died they put his 'brave ' heart in a casket and took it into battle. (had nothing to do with wallace) wallace was an importer exporter of his time and dealt with the germans . rose to fame by having a tussle with the english but got his arse kicked at falkirk (along with 10000 of his men ) ,after that he lost all respect and he got betrayed by a fellow scot and taken to london. the scots tried bigging him up like we did with robin hood and said he was shagging some french tart ( what may be true as the fench and scotts are one of the same in then days) my family tree does say somewhere down the line i have scottish and french blood and was related to a king of scotland (many times removed) but there seemed to be a link with the french back then so i suppose it may of been possable wallace was having it away with a french bird. time team have a lot to answer for lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 my family tree does say somewhere down the line i have scottish and french blood and was related to a king of scotland (many times removed) but there seemed to be a link with the french back then so i suppose it may of been possable wallace was having it away with a french bird. time team have a lot to answer for lol my surname is of french origin also, and my mums surname is scottish!! Mon Frere! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 i remember a clip by Billy Connolly about bonny prince charlie......wasn't he european rather than scottish or even english?? that may be where i recall the portugese homosexual line from? His Mam was Polish....his great grandad was Jan Sobieski III...which actually is the brand name of some decent cigarettes in Poland...useless info...I know. thats not useless info.....thats prime info if your a touring smoker in poland!! who's mam was polish....Billy Connolly's or Bonny Prince Charlie's??? LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ROOSTER Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 (edited) yes yes yes lads but the thing is wallace, bruce and even old mel actually exist, it seems you english lads have to invent people to be your greats(english rugby)now lads thats three of you english on to one little old scot pretty unfair odds so i'll wait till you get somemore on your side before we go farther with this after all i dont want to get the blame of taking advantage of three english lads, stabs the lawyer was ment for compo as i know he loves a good law book at least he likes to quote them, oh and stabs this book your reading wasnt written by an englishman was it,bigredbusa regarding braveheart wouldnt you lads love it if he was english, :kiss: NOW billy connelly a very funny guy but we have more and he's laughing at you (gordon brown) Edited April 21, 2008 by ROOSTER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mole trapper 1,693 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 I find it racist to celebrate st georgies day. You are of course joking, and being a wind up merchant. arent you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 yes yes yes lads but the thing is wallace, bruce and even old mel actually exist, it seems you english lads have to invent people to be your greats(english rugby)now lads thats three of you english on to one little old scot pretty unfair odds so i'll wait till you get somemore on your side before we go farther with this after all i dont want to get the blame of taking advantage of three english lads, stabs the lawyer was ment for compo as i know he loves a good law book at least he likes to quote them, oh and stabs this book your reading wasnt written by an englishman was it,bigredbusa regarding braveheart wouldnt you lads love it if he was english, :kiss: NOW billy connelly a very funny guy but we have more and he's laughing at you (gordon brown) Rooster i was having a laugh and trying to poke fun at everyone (me included) i wasn't trying to upset or offend anyone that said English greats -William Shakespeare (Playwright and also a convicted poacher!), Brunel-engineer-railway pioneer , Sir Tim Berners-Lee - he invented the world wide web, steven fry (very english and also very funny-to counter your Billy Connolly) stephen Hawking-(one of the greatest minds of current times), Sir Michael Caine (great actor) and me-your ferreting barrack room lawyer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 and funny how the two Prime ministers who have both fecked this country lately (blair and brown) were both born in scotland!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 aol home page gave me a link that explains about St George- funny we mentioned the scots and their historic connection to France (i believe that was because they were both catholic countries) and now the part of the dragon and St George is from a French Bishop! sounds like a conspiracy by the french! Embroidering the story: St George's life is shrouded in myth and exaggeration- St George's Day special Everybody knows about St George, don't they? He was the knight who slayed the dragon that, erm... Okay, don't worry, it's not surprising if you don't know a lot about England's patron saint - because there isn't actually much to know. The man behind the myth is a bit of a mystery. One thing we do know for sure about St George is that he wasn't actually English. It's thought he was born in Cappadocia, in what is modern-day Turkey - some time in the third century AD. With no credible historical source on St George's life, most of the details that are available have to be regarded as myth - but it is believed that his parents were Christians and that he later lived in Palestine, became a Roman soldier but also protested against Rome's harsh treatment of Christians. He is claimed to have been imprisoned and tortured, but stayed true to Christianity - leading to his beheading at Lyddia in Palestine. What no dragon? That's right, there's no mention of a mythical fire-breathing monster in the modern understanding of St George's life - that was popularised when printing pioneer William Caxton published The Golden Legend in 1483. This was a translation of a book by French bishop Jacques de Voragine, which incorporated fantastic and incredible details into the lives of the saints. It related how a monster terrorised a city called Silene "...and by this city was a stagne or a pond like a sea, wherein was a dragon which envenomed all the country". The story tells how the townspeople kept the dragon at bay by offering it two sheep each day, but once it got tired of its all-mutton diet they resorted to human sacrifice - choosing the victim by lot. The King's daughter was chosen and he tried to bargain his way out of it - but the townspeople insisted and she was dressed up nicely and led to the usual dragon feeding point and left there. But luckily enough for the poor damsel in distress, a knight happened to be passing - St George of course - and she begged him to flee before he was eaten too. We'll let The Golden Legend take up the story from here: "Thus as they spake together the dragon appeared and came running to them, and S. George was upon his horse, and drew out his sword and garnished him with the sign of the cross, and rode hardily against the dragon which came towards him, and smote him with his spear and hurt him sore and threw him to the ground. And after said to the maid: Deliver to me your girdle, and bind it about the neck of the dragon and be not afeard. "When she had done so the dragon followed her as it had been a meek beast and debonair." The story goes on to explain how St George then led the cowed beast back into the town before killing it - so impressing the King that he became a Christian. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bigredbusa Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 bigredbusa regarding braveheart wouldnt you lads love it if he was english not really we had robin hood and after all the scottish at the time didnt have such a character so they just took this importer exporter fella and bigged up his name, afterall he didnt fair to good at falkirk did he ? only to get stabbed in the back and cut to pieces by the brits. and as for the first battle he won at sterling bridge mmmmm well us silly british at the time fought battles with the old line up and war 'ettiquite' (spelling) but wallace being nothng more then a early day chav with no morals made use of this and drove the british into the bog . he come un-stuck tho when the britsh come up with the long bow and proper gave it to em . anyway braveheart wasnt wallace but robert the bruce , i think this guy should be given more credit for what he done for scotland at the time . dont believe the movie afterall in one of the battle scenes there is a BT van on a brow of the hill now im not knocking the scots at all but stories get twisted over time just like st george next you are going to tell me nessy is real Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ROOSTER Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 (edited) compo you didnt have to look at the aol page you should have asked and i would have told you all that, thats an impressive list but lets see,WS no one the english included can follow a play all the way through without been BORED,BRUNEL wouldnt have got a job if a scot hadnt come up with a steam engine,STBL wow he made a playground for paedoes, MR FRY well he may appeal to some mostly gay's or those with gay tendincy's but not in the same league as mr connelly,s M CAINE good but not great even i can think of better english actors, NOW EVEN YOU MUST AGREE THATS REALLY NOT THAT MANY FROM APPROX 60 MILLION, and you dont seem to have mentioned little things like the tele, the phone, that stuff they put on roads thats right tarmacadam, or the coat the keeps you dry thats right the macintosh then their a little thing that saved more lives than tongue can tell now whats it called thats right its called penicillen now theirs many more and from a nation of less than 5 million, now im off to work now but i dont know if he's english but if not he should be thats the man that invented the toilet pan i think his name was t crapper, have a nice day Edited April 21, 2008 by ROOSTER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ROOSTER Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 bigredbus, of course nessie is real im married to her and btw theirs really no english your a bit like the sweet counter in woolworths pick and mix in fact i hear they put the lights on early down their as its very dark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bigredbusa Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 ok , the telephone - now tell me if im wrong but didnt he move to canada where he invented the telephone so i very much doubt was a pure scottish invention. penicillin - ok fair play , some dirty scrote who didnt clean after himself got lucky with some mould the macintosh - yeah great idea if only they where clever enough to make trousers to match but in there wisdom decide to wear skirts ( sorry i mean kilts) golf - and why would anyone walk round a field hitting a ball with a stick ? tarmac / shell grip - i should fecking hope so as well with all the bad weather . but us brits fair just as well . we brought you Now somewhere down the line some scottish bint wanted a bit of rough to water down the inbreeding hence my family tree Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jasper65 6 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 What gets me is why some of the real Hero's who fought from the front with their Hearts on their sleeves ever celebrated? Nelson for Instance took the Battle to the Spanish Armada and the French and walked straight into the thick of Battles, the guy never sat behind a desk giving Orders! he piled in with the rest of his crew. this guy was a real Legend, I wonder how this country would have changed if he had lost that one? Brittania truely ruled the waves back then.... One other man who took his men into battle known as Agincourt and although heavily out Numbered won a epic battle was King Henry V. this guy took it to the French on their doorstep, It was said to be 6000 English against around 30,000 french, 5000 of the English was Archers who got the job done ... http://www.longbow-archers.com/historyagincourt.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nelson 0 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Nelson for Instance took the Battle to the Spanish Armada and the French and walked straight into the thick of Battles, the guy never sat behind a desk giving Orders! he piled in with the rest of his crew. this guy was a real Legend,http://www.longbow-archers.com/historyagincourt.htm I would just like to say, I was no where near Trafalgar when this happened and it is a slur on my good character by Jasper, who to my knowledge, is a right c*nt related that famous Germanic tribe the "Reich Hunts" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacherjim 0 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Well f*ck off somewhere else then, simple isn't it. :clapper: :clapper: :clapper: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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