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[Irish Lurcher 1,013]

I don’t go out with the intention of running hares, but the odd mishap will pop up and bang a dead hare is at hand, it has happened to me in the past. In fact I came across seven hares tonight while out lamping, they were given a wide berth.

 

But if I ever fancied a run on hares on the lamp/day time during the summer than I feel I have every right to do so.

 

I wonder who was the great wise man who sat down all those years ago and decide that it was cast in stone that no man should run hare during the summer months?? And why the f**k do we still take his advice still to this day, come on folks this is the year 2008,

I am thinking that all the old methods are now slowly dying away, i.e. running hares in the summer, a new breed of young hunter is on the horizon, and with that comes new methods that he sees fit to introduce into his method of hunting.

 

Get with it lads, cause it’s the year 2008.

[Giro 2,648]

"Get with it its 2008" feck off 2009 would be shit season be shit if we all thought like that...

 

 

never mind the leverts and bellied up doe's lets smash our dogs toes to feck on rock hard fields its to fecking hot to run your dog hard in the summer too..

 

comon sense with never prevail lol

[Guest oldskool]

any man worth his salt will leave hares alone in the summer...

 

i always hear ones complain about folk running dogs on hard ground during summer but the ground can be just as hard during winter months can it not???? i still like to take them for the odd run on mild nights just to keep them quiet in the kennels... but def no hares tho!!!

[francolin 449]

because a fox is a pest and a hare is sport plus leverets are about and if you kill a doe your killing a few leverets too

 

By killing vixens you are killing cubs its just the same. I dislike killing any animal with young inside or what is feeding young. The mild weather of the summer does tempt some people out of there armchairs to hunt but these people are not proper dogmen!

spot on t shirt hunters never see em when snows on ground or rain ect foxes this time of year only if a REAL problem and if u get a vixen try your best to get cubs cant kill milky vixens then leave cubs somewhere in ground it just aint right rant over.

[tote 856]

"Get with it its 2008" feck off 2009 would be shit season be shit if we all thought like that...

 

 

never mind the leverts and bellied up doe's lets smash our dogs toes to feck on rock hard fields its to fecking hot to run your dog hard in the summer too..

 

comon sense with never prevail lol

 

There's plenty of truth in the old saying Giro,"common sense aint that common".

[inan 841]

it aint only hares personally i stop hunting rabbits and foxes from march til september when the young are around to give em a chance to breed .Keeps some quarry for the following season

 

when you see young rabbits in december january and even more so now why stop hunting them they are a pest and do not and will not stop breeding............................

i also agree with the guy thats stated peeople start young dogs on summer hares and alot do but will come on here and deni the fact .as we no and was said if they dont get the odd few they will give up on the harder winter hare you dont need to make out you have not let your young dogs run an easy hare to gain confidence.or are we just saying your dogs are the bolloks i think not ..........

If people have to come on a hunting site and deny that they run summer hares that indicates to me they are ashamed to admit to it,if you are ashamed of doing something DON'T DO IT!

 

iam certainly not ashamed they tried making me feel that way when i put one up last week or so ago on lamp.first one ever with my 13month old pup he didnt catch it.i was buzzing as the first i have seen in person, so was proud of the way my dog ran it turning it twice and having a good old go.and i no damn well lots of guys that train young dogs on summer hare i havent ive always held mine back as i want my dog to grow in his own time even tho some people tell me i should be running him now.but the dog will be match fit start of season and lets go.so all them that frown with their 3 out of 3 hare dogs remember where it all started in the summer 2 year ago

I didnt mention you did I ? I must have been entering my dogs wrong all these years,,whats wrong with putting them on a September hare if they are young dogs? Or giving them a couple of doubled up runs ,some fellas let a pup slip in on a course when an older dog has taken the sting out of a jack,any of these methods do not involve running pregnant or nursing does.As to what other people do when out hunting with dogs I prefer to act as my conscience dictates ,not as others do ,Ive seen a line of blokes on the marshes near me walking up hares in July ,then letting all their dogs go at once to catch the hare in long grass ,before the jack has had a chance to get into gear ,does that make it acceptable because others do it?I dont want to pop at you ,but you say its the first hare you have seen ,so perhaps you are not the most qualified person to lead the way on this post.

 

i most certainly aint trying to lead the way in the post and in your post my qoute was amongst yours. so i put my point accross and yes was the first hare i have seen with my dog.and he is young me and him together are learning together. and are not trying to lead the way as regards hare. i understand the ways they should be done yet i also no others also do it differently.and my only quote i was trying to get across is that rabbits are all year definetly where iam. their are thousands so why stop.and do it for pest controll .and people do train their dogs on summer hare.i didnt say that i did quite the opposite

Then we are at cross purposes and Im sorry for any offence given.I and a mate lamp 3 farms for rabbit control we told the land owners we were going to stop beginning of April the answer was if you stop we will have them shot at night,so I see where you are coming from. I have a 10months old pup myself ,best of luck with your dog in the next season ,Inan.

[inan 841]

Aye, it would.........

 

The point of the question is, the circumstances dont really matter.............if you would, then you would.

 

Which also means that folk cant put down other lads that are doing it.

 

Now I dont mean this in a funny way at all, but it is strange that the members who were so quick to jump down the lad that is lampings throat, have been so slow to give a reply to that question.

Ill answer you smartface,I will lamp rabbits if they are going to be shot if I dont. I dont lamp hares Spring,Summer ,Autumn,or Winter I run Hares from late Sept to beginning of March .Satisfied? Inan.

[moley 115]

just to add to this boiling pot , these lads do not have permission and the farmer concerened will definatly not have asked them on his land as he like to see the hares around

 

i can understand wanting rid of hares if they are doing damage , but these are not and most hare damage is small area,s out in the middle of fields as hares browse , then move on a yard or two and browse a bit more, where as rabbit damage is mostly around the headland in concentrated areas where the crop can struggle anyway, plus those little bundles of fur are out all day eating

[kreet 0]

i personaly wouldnt touch a rabbit or hare in my area at this time of year will be august sept till i do as they are both hunted stiff due to twats hunting them all year round killing anything for the crack id rather wait 4/5 months and have edible quary as throw away a freezer worth of free good grub plus i have a terrier that can catch the odd hare at this time of year so what is it proving letting decent dogs run them ?? i wait all summer for the season to start againe and realy look forward to it . as for fox they are like crow's ferrals n rats they are pest's i have been speeking to farmers over the last week who are losing lambs to bloody crows and who want the fox's out buy any means that works anyone putting a vixen and cubs in the same class as a hare with levs is a twat end of story grow up enjoy the summer walking your dogs going to shows and out with the fly rod leave your winter game to get its self ready againe then enjoy your winter instead of blasting everything now then sitting on here the rest of the year .

[Guest rexdigger]

just a question who died and made you GOD????????????????

[wildfowler-2007 0]

i personaly wouldnt touch a rabbit or hare in my area at this time of year will be august sept till i do as they are both hunted stiff due to twats hunting them all year round killing anything for the crack id rather wait 4/5 months and have edible quary as throw away a freezer worth of free good grub plus i have a terrier that can catch the odd hare at this time of year so what is it proving letting decent dogs run them ?? i wait all summer for the season to start againe and realy look forward to it . as for fox they are like crow's ferrals n rats they are pest's i have been speeking to farmers over the last week who are losing lambs to bloody crows and who want the fox's out buy any means that works anyone putting a vixen and cubs in the same class as a hare with levs is a twat end of story grow up enjoy the summer walking your dogs going to shows and out with the fly rod leave your winter game to get its self ready againe then enjoy your winter instead of blasting everything now then sitting on here the rest of the year .

 

 

Kreet there are not many dog men in our area and the one's we do have there dog's are not good anuff for hare so talking about hare's getting hunted stiff is crap there are loads of hare's in our area cause the lack of dog men etc

 

enjoy your summer fishing mate

 

regards

Edited April 20, 2008 by wildfowler-2007

[kreet 0]

there aint very many hare around us at the moment because of people with crap dogs running them on young hare there was atime i would walk out the baclk of leslie and see 6 easily now i rarely see one . i have permision on an estate near leven whitch has dozens of them running around the now there are people with dogs capable but they arnt fit nor have they been trained the right way whitch im glad of as i have a dog coming over next month more than capable so all the more quary for me next season .

[whin 463]

were i stay on the farm etc rabbs are a problem so you just keep picking away until corns long ,hares localy, in winter as we have not got loads , but if i had a young dog i would wait till sep or give her easy chances, im a hunter not a died in the wool courser ,to me when legal a roe ment forty quid a hare three fifty a rabbit a pound i dont need the money as much and its more difficult to get rid of dogged game but not imposible , if somebody says get me twenty hares or half a dozen a week i would kill them if the price was [bANNED TEXT] day nite whatever same with roe when it was legal , nowadays i like the sport but i never forget the 15 or more seasons of hard graft i done to make good cion , and make good dogs , to me if someone says i need rid of game or if willing to barter with me well i wouldnt give a fech what anybody thinks , my hunting game season finishes realy in march, rabits were i stay now i have to pick away but no big fereting days just lamp take the odd guy out with rifle etc , as for foxes well if i find one denned and asked to get rid i would oblige , fishing heads on now not reali into pointless disputes over when we should hunt game sep to last week in march unless you have to run a pup or see if shees worth keeping on etc , rabits can be a full time hobby in some areas cheers

[Guest dotty]

if you course hares, it is most likely that you do it for sport. so it seems a bit silly to still be coursing because you are bound to bump into a pregnet doe. however, if it is for pest control then it doesn't matter if you get a pregnet one.

i personal don't like shooting hares, so on my farm before the stupid bad came in i used dogs to catch as many as possible. whether it was lamping or in the summer. this is because they had to be controlled so catching them in the summer was easier for the dog. this ment that we generally missed the strong ones but caught the weeker ones. this left a nice small but healthy population.

basically what i'm saying is that if it is for pest control then the time of year and the method is not important. but if you do it for sport then you will only course in the winter. to preserve them.

[Guest WILF]

Aye, it would.........

 

The point of the question is, the circumstances dont really matter.............if you would, then you would.

 

Which also means that folk cant put down other lads that are doing it.

 

Now I dont mean this in a funny way at all, but it is strange that the members who were so quick to jump down the lad that is lampings throat, have been so slow to give a reply to that question.

Ill answer you smartface,I will lamp rabbits if they are going to be shot if I dont. I dont lamp hares Spring,Summer ,Autumn,or Winter I run Hares from late Sept to beginning of March .Satisfied? Inan.

 

Wasnt trying to be smart, as I said, I wasnt being funny..............a shame you took it that way.

You love your hares and fair play to you, I know a lot of lads that do............now I would NOT run foxes at this time of year (or anytime of year of course) because you just would not account for the cubs.

I was just stating, that folk cant put a lad down if there moral high ground only extends as far as a phone call from the farmer or keeper.

Now you said that you would not (when it was legal) run hares, now if your permission was a large shooting estate and they were going to hold a cull but gave you 1st shout, would you run em or let some other fella do it?