teaching a dog NOT to hurt the bunny?

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited August 12, 2008 by oneredtrim

[BlueCoyote 0]

oh she's loyal to food! steal it right out of your mouth!!!

 

I wish she was over here...i'd wager she would'nt.

 

If she loyal to food...then you've got her. No good countering that statement, think about it for a couple of days. Like i said earlier...it's all down to how your mind manipulates her WANTS.

i wish she was over there. lol that would be perfectly fine with me!

 

So...you know she's loyal to food ..even after stateing she's loyal to nobody (an ever so simple transposition sounds on the cards). Thinking about that for a couple of days is greater than 16mins.

 

You said she's fine indoors but off it outside...have you trained her to walk at heel with you properly since April?

 

 

This is coming from a mother of two toddlers, plus helping my mother who lives nextdoor to me, taking care of my grandmother who has parkinsons with dementia... i have worked with her but not at the consistency i should be. its usually every other day, or when ever i can.

On the leash she wants to yank your arms out of the sockets for the first ten minutes - until i put the halter on her - choke chains she'd happily gag... with the halter even, she would back out of it.. so i had to clip a leash to the collar and one to the halter in case she backed up again.

once she's past the temptation of goats and bunnies and chickens she'll pay attention to me on the walk. we were working on sit/stay last time out. she learns fast! and without food! i didnt have treats while doing sit stay. but once we got back home it was like i had done nothing at all with her.

 

i have trained dogs in the past, from pups. i've have brought home adult dogs too and worked with them but i've never had a dog like her... a six month old dog with absolutely nothing in her head..... so yeah its daunting and unchartered territory for me. notice i've never said she's hopeless though. but right now with everything i already have to do... i DONT think i am doing her any favours with my schedule of "every other day" training sessions.

 

and to be honest, it was my husband who wanted to keep her when she wandered onto our property..... but that was before he started working insane hours. he was doing most of the training with her.

 

If i didnt have kids, farm, and other dogs (two of which HATE this mutt and want to kill her - which is mainly due to the fact that the dog doesnt know how to play without hurting the other dog) i would have no trouble at all working with her and getting her to behave. its just time i havent got.

 

 

as for the food thing... yeah she loves food, but she loves a running bunny a lot better. she has a high prey drive that would make any hunter proud... but if you did put her on a wild rabbit you'd probably never see either of them again.

 

For all the trouble she is, i dont plan to, and never intend to take her to the animal shelter. she isnt THAT bad....... all the time.

Edited August 12, 2008 by BlueCoyote

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited August 12, 2008 by oneredtrim

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what we used to do with our dogs who wanted to chase everything and get in the pens is :

 

let them in the pens with a muzzle on and on a chain tie them up and leave them there yea they used to go nuts for the first ten minutes but would soon get bored , do as long as you can, feed him there with the animals in the end he be ecxited to get out go let him out and if he runs back to the pen barking and trying to get in put him back in with the muzzle on and do the same again he will soon learn longest we done this to 1 of our dogs is a week ,

 

another way is if you got a horse , ram ,cow put a muzzle on the dog and let him in with them no leash on him can get tangled up . and let the dog go to them barking or try to chase them he will come off worse trust me , try this till he doesnt want to go near the pen they learn quick this way worked for all our dogs

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Last week and this week i havent been able to do much of anything with the dogs except feed them..... my mom is out of town until this thursday, so my two hour window of free time - kids nap time when i work with dogs- has been taken over with caring for all my moms animals, feeding, watering(thats after i have retrieved and cleaned out the food and water buckets for everyone)

 

ALSO ... i like the idea of tying her in the goat pen with a muzzle.... my concern right now is there are two does that are about kid soon. they're mean goats anyway, i'm not worried about THEM.. i'm just concerned if they kid while the dog is out there, what could happen to the kids if they wander away from the nans? as strong as she is, muzzled or not she could still hurt a baby goat.

 

And yes we have a billy goat, not much bigger than the dog. He lives with the pig and i'm afraid the pig would damage the dog beyond repair!

Last week i had her out for a walk... one of my rabbits had escaped, i didnt know this until the damned thing came running down the middle of the road AT us.. the dog was doing back flips and HOWLING until the rabbit dodged us at the last minute and ran into the bushes. :realmad:

 

Anyway, Both are good ideas and thank you!

I've seen dogs worse than her rehabbed to be great working dogs, i am capable of doing it as long as i have a baby sitter.....

The most i've accomplished with her is indoor manners. and no i didnt use any kind of treat or electrical collar system to do it i dont mind using food to train a dog, but i like to see if i can train without it first.. and to start with, when she first got here, she would try to swallow your whole hand if you offered her food!

 

 

 

its been a learning experience.... i dont regret it, but DAMN the timing was horrible